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I was wondering if those who created the recommended procedure many moons ago have evaluated VS9 with pack 1? I understand how we got to where we are. I think it is a little pessimistic to believe the product will never be fixed although I have my doubts.

I must say you are right about the added time is minimal and use this procedure myself. The added time is not the problem, it's the necessity of having to get back to the computer yet again. The dead time is what hurts productivity. If I sit right with the computer continusously there is little extra time involved. But if I leave my dvd won't finish until I go through the added burning sequence.

I have to say that I tried the "intended" procedure twice last night and the project crashed. I went back to the "recommended pprocedure"

I have a question about the recommended audio settings. I have found that some customer'd dvd players produce no sound when I use the "recommended" audio compression. Is this common? As a result, I would not recommend mpeg audio if you do not know the player's capability.
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Re the audio question, I am not sure where you are in the world (NTSC or PAL), but if you are in NTSC land, then I would not be surprised at all by the fact that some people's set-top DVD players cannot play home-made DVDs using MPEG audio. It is simply not in the NTSC DVD profile, though some (many?) NTSC players these days will play it anyway -- just as many players in PAL land can these days play NTSC DVDs without problem (and vice versa). MPEG audio is only part of the PAL profile, along with LPCM. But I personally never use it. I use either LPCM, or nowadays, Dolby AC-3 which can certainly be played on just about every NTSC and PAL player and is, moreover, part of the profiles of both systems.
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Hey ken,

Just wondering, do you know off hand if the AC-3 Dolby audio format is selectable in the project options settings tabs?


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I don't think it is. Certainly not on my version of VS 9 (though I have an issue with Project Properties in any case and only get a choice between DV and MPEG). But I think more generally it is only available in Make Movie Manager, where I have used it to create custom templates including AC-3.
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I'll have to check when I get back, but Ulead VS9 claims it as a feature here and says:

"Support for All Popular Formats - You can work with almost any video, image and audio file formats available including AVI, MPEG, QT, Sony MicroMV™, WMV, BMP, JPEG, GIF, TIF, MP3, Dolby® Digital, AIFF, WAV and lots more."

Maybe that's just alot of noise and doesn't mean you can render video files into that format

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You misunderstand me. Dolby AC-3 is certainly part and parcel of VS 9. You can import it and you can certainly produce DVDs with AC-3 audio. All I said in response to your very specific question was that no, you can't 'access' it in Project Properties, but it is certainly there in Make Movie Manager.
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I did see it when I looked in Share>Custom and then poked around in the settings there and voila, dolby digital. I guess I just had tunnel vision when setting up the project proerties upfront and only seen AVI and MPEG. Didn't know you had to go into "Custom" settings for those settings to become avaiable. My mistake, but without someone telling me, I would have missed it. Just my ignorance or Uleads failure to make it more apparent...........?? Who knows,

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Post by Eric VS9 »

Hi I am having many problems since switching
from version 8 to 9 I can not get a hold of tech support
busy for the last 2 weeks

I noticed this post is dated December 2004 are the bugs talked about
for version 8 or 9 and no mention of Dolby audio I am thinking
this may be part of my trouble

For the most part i do many things talked about in this post
but still have a lot of problems.

Also my past experience with variable vs constant bit rate is variable
will make the video jumpy is this correct and If I am capturing analog
I use frame based with deinterlace clicked ???
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Dear all,

Here are the problems I faced.
1. If you see the guide, under "EDIT PHASE" #4 Select File/project properties, click Edit and select NTSC DVD. In my case, there is no DVD options on the window. Only PAL VCD, NTSC VCD and MPEG 1are available. I don't know what is the problem. Do I need a MPEG 2 codec installed before starting ?

2. Under Burn DVD Phase #1 when I select new project the window automatically goes to my TV card and getting ready to capture. Also the menu under share window is not active. All the buttens are inactive.

I have VS 7 and I have registered my software too.

Kindly if any know please help

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By the sounds of it, you have a crippled version of VS7 which probably came bundled with a piece of hardware. And it sounds as though you have VS 7 SE Basic. Can you confirm this, please? If you do, then it does not have any ability to produce a DVD, and, I suspect, not even the capacity to produce a DVD-compatible mpeg-2 file which you can burn to DVD using another program like Nero. You can only burn VCDs and probably SVCDs.
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Yes Ken Berry. I got it with my i-link card. May be it has limited facilities. What can I do now ? can I patch it ?

Thanks.

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No. For most purposes, SE versions cannot be patched. You can, however, upgrade to VS9 for US$49.95.
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Thanks.

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Recommendation for VS9

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I've read just about every post on this thread and there is a lot of good informaion here. However, as others have mentioned, it started so long ago, it is not clear to me that it is still 100% valid for VS9. I started with VS6 many years ago and went to VS7, then to VS8, and now to VS 9.

There was a post several pages ago about Capture of Digital Video and the issue of Upper or lower field first. The recommendation for DV was lower field first. Then there was a point made about Sony Camcorders and my personal experience has always been Upper field first on my Sony TRV-740 Camcorder. I verified this back on VS7. I can't say anything about any other camcorder. I did see in one post that a Canon also has Upper field first.

Now, it would be great if we could get the orginal authors of this thread to jump back in and make a new thread that would truly be recommendations for VS9. I must say that I have had more problems using VS9 than I've had with VS7. It may be because I've tried more complex tasks but I've made several succesful full length DVD videos and convert many TV movies over to DVD,.. and I knew nothing about these "Recommended settings". I never create a "Video File" before I "Created Disk", and therefore I've always had some kind of video in the timeline just before I selected "Share" and created a disk. Also, none of my "Properties" were ever matched. IF they were it was by accident since I mostly on set the compress I wanted in the final step.

However, I'm going to follow the recommedations on my next DVD production and see what happens.

The biggest problem I'm having now is having VS9 hang after 16 hours of trying to produce a DVD that has 3 55 minute videos, ripped from DVD's, merged into one large DVD using DVD2ONE Join option, then adding them to VS9 to create a menu and Chapters to jump to each movie separately. I also added special sound to the Menu. Even though the movie fits just fine in Nero-Buring rom to 4.7 GB, VS9 thinks it is 10+ GB and won't go forward. When I tell VS9 that I'm creating a DL DVD disk of 8.5GB, it still won't go forward. I have to tell it to "Fit to Disk". The it will proceed with creating the disk. (I never burn anything in VS7,8, or 9, I always use Nero to burn) VS9 start the process and cranks for up 10 16+ hours,... then it just seems to quit even though the clock at the bottom of the window is still running. I had to use the TASK manager to shut it down. I tried this several different ways, still get hung.

Finally I gave up and just burned the movies to one standard DVD disk and it plays terrific. If I get some time I'll try it again.
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Re: Recommendation for VS9

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bstansbury wrote:I've read just about every post on this thread and there is a lot of good informaion here. However, as others have mentioned, it started so long ago, it is not clear to me that it is still 100% valid for VS9. I started with VS6 many years ago and went to VS7, then to VS8, and now to VS 9.

There was a post several pages ago about Capture of Digital Video and the issue of Upper or lower field first. The recommendation for DV was lower field first. Then there was a point made about Sony Camcorders and my personal experience has always been Upper field first on my Sony TRV-740 Camcorder. I verified this back on VS7. I can't say anything about any other camcorder. I did see in one post that a Canon also has Upper field first.

Now, it would be great if we could get the orginal authors of this thread to jump back in and make a new thread that would truly be recommendations for VS9. I must say that I have had more problems using VS9 than I've had with VS7. It may be because I've tried more complex tasks but I've made several succesful full length DVD videos and convert many TV movies over to DVD,.. and I knew nothing about these "Recommended settings". I never create a "Video File" before I "Created Disk", and therefore I've always had some kind of video in the timeline just before I selected "Share" and created a disk. Also, none of my "Properties" were ever matched. IF they were it was by accident since I mostly on set the compress I wanted in the final step.

However, I'm going to follow the recommedations on my next DVD production and see what happens.

The biggest problem I'm having now is having VS9 hang after 16 hours of trying to produce a DVD that has 3 55 minute videos, ripped from DVD's, merged into one large DVD using DVD2ONE Join option, then adding them to VS9 to create a menu and Chapters to jump to each movie separately. I also added special sound to the Menu. Even though the movie fits just fine in Nero-Buring rom to 4.7 GB, VS9 thinks it is 10+ GB and won't go forward. When I tell VS9 that I'm creating a DL DVD disk of 8.5GB, it still won't go forward. I have to tell it to "Fit to Disk". The it will proceed with creating the disk. (I never burn anything in VS7,8, or 9, I always use Nero to burn) VS9 start the process and cranks for up 10 16+ hours,... then it just seems to quit even though the clock at the bottom of the window is still running. I had to use the TASK manager to shut it down. I tried this several different ways, still get hung.

Finally I gave up and just burned the movies to one standard DVD disk and it plays terrific. If I get some time I'll try it again.
I do similar types of things with my VS9. It also hangs like yours every now and again. When it hangs like that, before you end the whole process, look in your working directory for a temporary conversions folder. It contains the converted individual vob files from your movies. They are now in the mpg format. You can copy those movies to another location, and then use them in your original project instead of the imported VOBs. When you get to the point of hitting the fit to shrink button, your movies are already converted, and it only takes a couple of minutes for your completed projected to be finished from that point on.
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