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Sorry I am new so did not understand the process if I may

I have a downloaded trial of video studio 10 plus. It works really well for the firs two disks. Now when i try to create a disk the process goes so far and then the software sloses down with no error message. Can you tell me if there is something i am obviously doing wrong?

My camera is an olympus and it creates good quality MP4 video and thats why i need video studio to work as I dont know of any other software package that imports MP4. The trial runs out in 11 days so please help. I would have tried this sooner but thought it map be a PC fault so put it into the Shop to be checked - it seems to be okay. Is it possible to import a corrupted MP4 file which may confuse the software ?

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Ah -- so now the plot begins to un-thicken! :roll: Why are you double posting? (See http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 8739#98739 ) At least, though, in this post you provide further information...

I take it your camera is a still camera which can take short video clips in mpeg-4 format? Or is it one of those new fangled small video cameras which film to a storage card?

Anyway, it would be useful to know exactly what format of mpeg-4 is involved. There are a whole variety. Right click on one of them within Video Studio and tell us its exact Properties.

As I asked in my reply to your other thread, how exactly were you handling the files -- what editing were you doing? (Mpeg-4 files are notoriously difficult to edit.)

And then what did you do after editing: did you (as you should have) gone to Share > Create Video File > DVD, to convert your project into a DVD-compliant mpeg-2 which you could later burn?

Or did you jump straight to the burn module, and expect it to do the incredibly complex task of converting mpeg-4 to mpeg-2, plus building a menu, multiplexing the video and audio and actually burning the disc, all on the fly?

One other alternative you might want to consider is converting your mpeg-4s to mpeg-2 before you even open Video Studio. There is a freeware program called SUPER which you can download here http://www.erightsoft.com/S6Kg1.html It should be able to help.

Note that if your camera uses the H.264 mpeg-4 codec, you might have difficulty using video from it in Video Studio.
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Is it possible to import a corrupted MP4 file which may confuse the software ?
Very likely. I've had corrupt MPEG-2 files that cause the Ulead programs to crash (or result in DVDs with 'lip sync" problems). I call it "sneaky corruption", because the files always played-back OK.

I don't have any personal experience with MPEG-4, but the format does seem to cause even more trouble than MPEG-2. (Not surprising, since it's more compressed than MPEG-2.)
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Hi Ken
As you have no doubt sussed out I posted once and did not kmow if it had worked and then posted the shorter one. Anyhow are you tyhe Ken that emailed me some time ago about Ulead who worked in high places Please email me privately if you are you were really helpful at that point and I lost this chaps emaol address. Now your questions

I take it your camera is a still camera which can take short video clips in mpeg-4 format? Or is it one of those new fangled small video cameras which film to a storage card?
The camera is an olympus C770 ultra zoom and can record up to 30 mins of reasonable video in Mpeg4 format

Anyway, it would be useful to know exactly what format of mpeg-4 is involved. There are a whole variety. Right click on one of them within Video Studio and tell us its exact Properties.

File Format MPEG-4 File
File size 10896 KB
Duration 41 441 Seconds
Video
Video type MPEG 4 ASP Video
Total frames 1212 frame(s)
Attributes 24 bits 640 x 480
Frame rate 29970 frames / sec
Data rate 2000 kb ps

Audio
Audion type MPEG AAC audio
Total samples 1988,608
Attributes 48000Hz, 16 bit, stereo
Bit rate 128 Kbps

As I asked in my reply to your other thread, how exactly were you handling the files -- what editing were you doing? (Mpeg-4 files are notoriously difficult to edit.)

I did not know this. Dont laugh but I pulled them into the area on the screen (dont know what its called its at the right hand side under tabs "effects" through to "share" using the load video button. I then dragged the previews from this area onto the time line and continued doing this and editing adding sound and text until i had completed the project.

And then what did you do after editing: did you (as you should have) gone to Share > Create Video File > DVD, to convert your project into a DVD-compliant mpeg-2 which you could later burn?

That sounds similar to what I tried I clicked the create disk button OOPs have I wasted your time? It did work a couple of time simply doing this.

One other alternative you might want to consider is converting your mpeg-4s to mpeg-2 before you even open Video Studio. There is a freeware program called SUPER which you can download here http://www.erightsoft.com/S6Kg1.html It should be able to help.


I will have a look at that will the conversion have an affect on the quality of the video? Its not as good as I would want so any degradation would be a pity and anyway the video studio + is supposed to be happy with Mpeg 4. If the quality will not diminish and you think it will make things easier then i will do this.

Ken This is a long reply and since we do have the same name which has a very interesting meaning in the Galic :D please reply you have already been really useful and I am surprised that this forum is as good as it is considering the answers it seems are comming from volunteers

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kendonald wrote:I am surprised that this forum is as good as it is considering the answers it seems are comming from volunteers
Without a doubt this is the BEST forum I have ever participated in. 8)
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Ken -- you might want to try the work flow I suggested as a first option (Share > Create Video File > DVD). Only when the DVD-compatible mpeg-2 is produced do you close the project, and with an empty timeline, go to Share > Create Disc > DVD.

ANY recoding of mpeg-4, especially if it is to a less compressed format like mpeg-2, will cause loss of quality. Mpeg-4 is highly compressed, and to convert it into a less compressed format, the conversion process has to add data. It cannot just make it up, so it in effect copies some of the existing data and duplicates it. This will inevitably lead to artifacts entering the picture, particularly if, as you say, your original mpeg-4 is not the most wonderful quality. But as I say, you can't avoid it. You cannot burn mpeg-4 to a *video* disc unless it is a DivX disc and you have a DVD player which recognises DivX discs. Otherwise there is no alternative but to convert it to DVD-compatible mpeg-2.

Which brings me to the next point. Your mpeg-4 is an ASP (Advanced Simple Profile) version. Such ASP codecs include DivX, XVid, 3ivX, Nero Digital, ffmpeg and last but not least, QuickTime. Given that your camera is an Olympus, I am guessing that the codec it uses is a QuickTime one. QT as far as I am aware uses two, the more recent one being the problematic (but excellent quality) H.264 one. I have not yet heard of a VS user dealing with H.264 video successfully.

Whichever the case, you need to make sure you have the codec installed on your computer. This will usually come on the Olympus installation disc.

If your camera uses the older QT codec, then VS should be able to handle it (with the codec installed on the computer) using the work flow I described above.

If it doesn't, or if it is indeed the H.264, then conversion using a program like SUPER should be tried.
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Thanks Ken can i aks you about Clips?

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Thanks Ken ?i will try that out (it seems to take a Long time to do anything have good in video on the computer but its fun)

I was reading an other post which spoke about clips and not going over the maximum. Can anyone tell me what does this mean

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Gentlemen,
I found this post just when I was about to do my own one. I am using ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO 10 and it tends to shut down as well without any warning before or any notifications what happended after the shutdown.

As far as I can tell there is no similarity within the shutdowns. All I can tell is that it happens 3 to 5 times after I booted my system. Once this is done everything's fine and the software runs for hours. It shuts down when I am creating projects as well as creating video files or burning or .... anytime.

Hope somebody can help me.

Greetings from Germany (and sorry for my bad English!).

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Hi Frank,
Video capture, editing etc is very resource hungry. One of the first steps to take is to make sure you have shut down EVERYTHING that is unnecessary on your computer before you start playing with video files.
That means screen savers, anti-virus, connections to the internet and any programs that load themselves in the background. As well as that make sure you have lots of space on your hard drive(s) and that they are well cleaned of unnecessary garbage that may have built up over time. Defrag, defrag, defrag!
If you do those things and still get the shut downs try following this link to a tutorial by the lovely Steve for creating a separate hardware profile as there really could be any number of software or hardware causes for the shutdowns to occur:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=13950

P.S. Please fill in your system specs so that the forum members can "see" a little more of your operating environment.
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