Larger Buffer or more GigaBytes?

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Larger Buffer or more GigaBytes?

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Hi all, I'm about to add a 250gb Sata 11 Hdd to my PC. I have a choice between 8mb and 16mb Buffer Cache for a 20% price increase or I could have a larger capacity drive for the extra money.
Am I best to spend my money on a bigger Cache or Hard Drive. Please.
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Post by GeorgeW »

How much larger is the other drive :?:

Is this for your P4 2.8 machine? In that type of machine, I would probably go larger drive (300gb or more) -- as I think 8mb cache is fast enough for video capture/render, and it seems like I am always running out of space...

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I'm guessing a bit here, but I'd go for the bigger drive. As I understand it, the cache only helps if you are reading the data more than once. So, it might help if you are processing a very short video clip over and over... maybe trying different filter settings or something.

The cache is going to speed-up the instantaneous response. It's not going to speed-up continuous data transfer. The continuous data transfer rate is still limited by how fast it can write/read data to/from the hard drive platters.

It might make your system a bit more "snappy", but if you are rendering or saving a big file, it's not going to make much difference.

If you were running a database on a server, it might make a huge speed difference. (Several users reading and writing little bits of data, all trying to access different parts of the hard drive at the same time.)
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Hey Roy,
good to see that you have 3 partitions on your primary drive. I just can't believe that there are people out there with EVERYTHING on a single partition! They can't defrag very often!

Anyway, you'll get noticeable benefits from having a second physical hard drive, whether it has an 8MB or 16MB cache. Although my experience is limited to IDE drives, I've found that smart rendering avi clips is much quicker - like by a factor of about three - if you render to another drive. Presumably it relates to I/O, and you're making use of two physical read/write heads. Not that smart rendering avi clips necessarily makes up much of your video editing time, but every little helps. The benefits are far less for MPEG2 clips.

I would therefore recommend the larger 8MB cache drive too - and I'm sure you'll split it up into a few partitions.

Old IDE drives don't die, though - they can just end up in USB enclosures, a more convenient alternative to optical storage. It reminds me of a favourite book I read as a kid, about a steam shovel. It became obsolete, and sad, when all the new-fangled diesel diggers came in, but ended it's days as a heating boiler in a school.... probably that one where there was that carbon monoxide shock-horror thing...! :cry:
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Thanks for the advice everyone that's fairly emphatic in fact it may even be a First.... everybody in agreement!!! Regards Roy.
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...if you render to another drive.... and you're making use of two physical read/write heads.
8) Interesting point! I hadn't thought about that. Ive had one drive dedicated to audio/video... Now, I'll have to think about my system configuration a bit more...

But, I have thought that they should make a special A/V drive with separate read & write heads. I've thought about what the drive head is doing when you are reading & writing at the same time, like when a TiVo is delaying a broadcast, or recording one broadcast while playing another. The head is jumping back & forth like crazy between the read position and the write position, in order to keep the read & write buffers full. (I guess this really isn't a problem as long as the drive's access time is fast enough.)
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