Slideshow photos apear shaking after converting to videofile

fiamis5 · Post by **fiamis5** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:27 am

After created 2 slide fotoshows, in some of the video files the fotos appear shaking or jumping after converting from project to NTSC SVCD or MPEG using Ulead VideoXpress. I don't know what is affecting, I think could be the transtions? or the time that I'm giving to each frame? that is 10seconds foto per 2secs. per transition.
Any suggestions because I'm a novice trying to learn how to produce my own DVD movies. I burn already to dvds using this program but I think I can still improve more the quality of the pictures

Thanks for the advise you can provide me...

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:08 am

VideoXpress,

where did you get that from?

Jittery stills in video are caused by the interlacing of the fields on TV displays. Very fine detail tends to show in alternating fields causing this jitter. Usually, I introduce a slight vertical motion blurr to these images in PhotoImpact, resize all images close to the frame size needed for the TV standard I'm going to view this on and save as a bmp.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:13 am

I have never seen VideoXpress so have no idea of its settings or where you can find them. But an alternative to Heinz's suggestion is what I usually do with slideshows. And that is produce them using Frame Based as the Field Order. Photos do not need to be interlaced -- if they *are* interlaced by using a Field Order (Upper or Lower), it is really only repeating the same still image twice. But as Heinz suggests, this can cause a shimmer sometimes (though many people produce slideshows using Lower Field First without a problem).

Frame Based is as its name suggests -- showing the photo as the single Frame that it really is.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:21 am

You are right Ken, but only on progressive scan equipment, any normal TV picture is playing field based, AFAIK. I have mucked around with all sorts of different approaches but got the best results with bmp images, 1 or 2 pixel vertical motion blurr for images with the jitter, and normal field based mpeg2 at reasonably high bitrates. With stills it doesn't matter if you get the field order wrong because there is no motion to start with. Hence, frame based should also give the same results but not if you use pan and zoom or other motion transitions.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:40 am

Sorry Heinz, but we are talking slideshows here. I do ALL my slideshows Frame Based, and I don't have a progressive scan TV, alas. A Frame Based slideshow in effect, on an interlaced TV, projects two half frames of each photo which each consist of the single solid image. Works perfectly each and every time...

fiamis5 · Post by **fiamis5** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:19 am

Really, really a lot of thanks!!!

I didn't spect to receive answers coming from Australia. I'm a housewife in Oregon trying to learn to edit my own home videos and that's why I got the Ulead VideoStudio because I was looking for a USB port to capture my old VHS movies and the VideoXpress software were included in the pacage.

In concrete, fro slideshows, should I remove the transitions?
and use the transitions to link fragemnts of videos only?

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:23 am

No, you can have transitions between slides also.

The jitter in your photos doesn't have anything to do with that. Try the frame based as suggested by Ken. Which version VideoStudio do you use?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:16 am

... um ... VideoXpress!! Remember...?

fiamis5 -- again, not knowing how VideoXpress operates, I don't know if this will help, but apart from Heinz's earlier idea of applying a gaussian blur, look for a setting which will saying something like 'Apply anti-flicker'. It will be somewhere in the part where you can look at a disc's settings before you burn it and change them if necessary.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:25 am

Ken, I think VideoXpress is the capturing software that came with the capture device used. If I'm not mistaken, she is using VS, not sure which version, to do this slide show.

fiamis5, could you please confirm the version and correct name of the program you are using? A quick list of steps you take to get the images into your PC and how you set up this slide show of yours would also help greatly.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:31 am

You are probably right -- it's just that she called it 'Ulead VideoXpress', so in my mind I was distinguishing it from Adstech VideoXpress which we both know is a capture device as opposed to program. I was thinking that a 'Ulead VideoXpress' would be something like a stripped down stand-alone program with only one of the Wizards available to do all the work.

Adstech VideoXpress comes with the perennial CapWiz and some flavour of VS... so that could be it. Sorry. And the red faces are on me this time!

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:42 am

Let's see what the OP has to say for herself

No need for red faces either

fiamis5 · Post by **fiamis5** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:44 am

Right, for capturing video I'm used the VideoXpress that comes with the VideoStudio 8 SE DVD. Video Xpress worked fine to me, but my problem start when I finished using the VideoStudio Movie Wizard and the software prompt me to (if I want) edit more the frames using the VideoStudio Editor.
What it is really hard and bored for me is to be editing each foto or transition. I already create a project with around 100 fotos and you can imagine it is taking me a lot of time...

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:56 am

OK -- at least you have a version which says 'SE DVD' meaning you can burn a DVD with it. So that's a good thing. (SE versions are crippled in various ways, and some don't even have the capacity to burn a DVD.)

You will find the anti-flicker instruction I referred to when you have your slideshow in the timeline, and you go to Share > Create Video File > DVD. A little window appears where you give the file a name. On that little window you will see a button labelled 'Options'. Click it, and down the bottom of the little screen you will see 'Apply anti-flickering filter'. Check the box.

I am not saying this will correct the problem but it may help.

I am afraid that I have bad memories of both VS7 and 8 for the difficulty they presented in doing a slideshow video. That is in fact the reason why I first bought Movie Factory 3. I had an SE version of Movie Factory 2, and it did slideshows both quickly and perfectly. And now, even though VS9 and 10 do slideshows well, I always use Movie Factory for them (now using MF5+).

fiamis5 · Post by **fiamis5** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:03 am

[quote="heinz-oz"]Ken, I think VideoXpress is the capturing software that came with the capture device used. If I'm not mistaken, she is using VS, not sure which version, to do this slide show.

fiamis5, could you please confirm the version and correct name of the program you are using? A quick list of steps you take to get the images into your PC and how you set up this slide show of yours would also help greatly.[/quote]

Yes, I got the ADSTech VideoXpress and Ulead VideoStudio 8 software, when I was looking for a simple USB port to transfer my home videos, and I really, really enjoy to be editng and working in the PC in this projects, because I was looking for a simple software to use by a selflearner as myself, I never take any computer class, that's why my knowledge on this is so limeted. So if you can give me simple advise would be happily accepted...
Thanks, again

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:20 am

Join the club, I'm self taught and never had any formal IT education. I have been using computers as a serious hobby as well as for work for about 17 years though.

Here are some simple questions for you:

how do you get your images into the PC?
what is their size in pixel x pixel and what format are these in? Jpeg, Bmp..?
what are your project settings for this slide show in VS?