Do you use PI to create websites?

coosbaytv

Do you use PI to create websites?

Post by coosbaytv »

If so, what are the sites you have created?

Also, is there an app that is complimentary to work with PI an an HTML editor to do what PI does not?

Jay
User avatar
VikingAnimations
Advisor
Posts: 942
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:14 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
processor: AMD A4-6300 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 3-7 GHz
ram: 4 GB
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1 TB
Corel programs: Ulead GIF Animator 5.05, MotionStudio 3D
Location: Winnipeg, Canada

Post by VikingAnimations »

PI may do for a personal or hobby site, but if you want to do something more professional and involved, then sign up for an HTML class or be prepared to teach yourself. I know a few people who use PI for their sites, and before long they realize that they too need a little more for editing their site.

Just Google for HTML Editor and you will find plenty...

There are those that are strictly text editors, and those that are WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get). Most WYSIWYG are not free, however, with the exception of Amaya. If you can get a copy of the full Netscape 7.2, it has the Composer feature to do WYSIWYG. I'm not sure if version 8 still offers that.

Which sort are you looking for - text or WYSIWYG? There are plenty of both...
coosbaytv

Post by coosbaytv »

Hey Robert!

Thanks again for your help and concern!

As a Video Producer, I can say that this web stuff in very stressful and non user friendly... :shock:

I did look at Amaya and downloaded but it looks like it is XML and XHTML (I think) whatever they are? PI saves only in HTML.

Again, this is just adding more questions to questions...

I did get further with an answer from Steve and am trying that now.

My biggest problem is that I don't have anyone local that I can get together with and go over this stuff which makes it tough.

Obviously the code of my page www.coosbaytvhomes.com (updated tonight by the way) is not your average simple code. It is full of tables (which I don't even know what those are yet)...

So, one question and day at a time.

This is why I asked this question. I had a feeling that noone is really using PI to build sites unless they are using it to "cheat" because they are already well versed in HTML and other language...

THe problem is that the marketing for PI is not clear about the fact that it is just an image editor...

Anybody else have an opinion?

FWIW; it is still worth doing this to get to know everyone from these groups who have a lot to bring to the table :D

Thanks ALL!

Jay
User avatar
VikingAnimations
Advisor
Posts: 942
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:14 pm
operating_system: Windows 7 Home Premium
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
processor: AMD A4-6300 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 3-7 GHz
ram: 4 GB
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1 TB
Corel programs: Ulead GIF Animator 5.05, MotionStudio 3D
Location: Winnipeg, Canada

Post by VikingAnimations »

I can tell you that anyone well versed in HTML would not be using PI to make their site. Graphics, sure. Great for graphics. The HTML code, nope... I can update a site with a text editor in the time it takes to open PI. And any other hand-coding geek will tell you the same. :lol:

For a newbie, PI will fill the bill for making a site. Once you get the hang of it and need to do more, the HTML you will edit elsewhere, and PI will be your graphics app once again.

I once used WYSIWYG editors, and now use only a text editor. Depending on what I'm doing, it could be Notepad, or "MAX's HTML Beauty." Those are the two I use most. FrontPage and Dreamweaver are collecting dust.

Web page creation is another creature, and thus another learning curve to climb... It certainly won't be easy, and it won't happen overnight. I've been at this for a few years now, and I still learn new things. Start with some of those links I emailed you, and start that painful process of learning HTML... It will pay off in the long run! :wink:

You may want to investigate the PhotoImpact International board. It's for PI users, and there is also a "Tech Talk and Web Support" forum to answer any questions you may have.
pmedia
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:14 am

try this link....

Post by pmedia »

yeahjamaica.com
I created it all with photoimpact 11 only, no other software was used.
just on problem though...
The pages seem to load in blocks for the first time.

I hope you like it.
sjj1805
Posts: 14383
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:20 am
operating_system: Windows XP Pro
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: Equium P200-178
processor: Intel Pentium Dual-Core Processor T2080
ram: 2 GB
Video Card: Intel 945 Express
sound_card: Intel GMA 950
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1160 GB
Location: Birmingham UK

Post by sjj1805 »

Very impressive.
I shall have to take a look at PhotoImpacts Web page making abilities when I get more time. Bit busy at the moment with various video projects and my wife has instructed me I have to do some decorating :roll:
coosbaytv

Post by coosbaytv »

pmedia:

your site is the only one I have seen that really has the look of a modern site of the typical PhotoImpact sites I have seen.

Do you know HTML or other languages?

How did you do your text for the articles?

I would like to get some more info from you.

Please take a look at my other post on this Forum as well as the one in the Web Forum. Any answers at this point are appreciated.

Jay
htchien
Advisor
Posts: 2013
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:10 pm
operating_system: Mac
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
Location: Taipei, Taiwan

Re: try this link....

Post by htchien »

pmedia wrote:yeahjamaica.com
I created it all with photoimpact 11 only, no other software was used.
just on problem though...
The pages seem to load in blocks for the first time.

I hope you like it.
Not knowing why but I only see the RedHat Linux Apache Server Test page on your website.

Maybe it's due to the Taiwan earthquake few weeks ago....

H.T.
Ted (H.T.)

[color=red]The message is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights. For official tech support please contact Corel Tech Support.[/color]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/htchien]My YouTube channel[/url]
pmedia
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:14 am

Post by pmedia »

coosbaytv wrote:pmedia:

your site is the only one I have seen that really has the look of a modern site of the typical PhotoImpact sites I have seen.

Do you know HTML or other languages?

How did you do your text for the articles?

I would like to get some more info from you.

Please take a look at my other post on this Forum as well as the one in the Web Forum. Any answers at this point are appreciated.

Jay


I really have no knowledge of HTML.
Photoimpact is hust a cool software that allows me to
create great looking webpages.
For the text just copy your text from a text document on your pc -if its a lot , go into photo ipmact then Press control and T , then control V to paste the text into the text box . You can edit the text at this point. By pressing enter the text is tansfered to the page.

To create good sites in photo impact make sure you use smart download to download all the shapes and path objects. You can create wonderful stuff from those. That is where I began.

My major issue with PI is the fact that my pages seem to load slower than others. That I am woking on . You can check my site www.yeahjamaica.com again and see an update. It loads a bit faster because I flattened most of the images ,but still not fast enough.
I have tried other 'easy web creation software but they seem so dull, or probably I am. Photo impact is so easy , you do so many things by just experimenting. The only other tool that was used to create my website was my camera as I took all the images my self, except the ones I made with the photo impact. This is really a hobby as I am in finance. Any way I really enjoy using photo impact and will continue to explore to make better web pages. I hope I will be able to share more of my work with you all and learn from you all. Photo impact is really fun
pmedia
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:14 am

Re: try this link....

Post by pmedia »

htchien wrote:
pmedia wrote:yeahjamaica.com
I created it all with photoimpact 11 only, no other software was used.
just on problem though...
The pages seem to load in blocks for the first time.

I hope you like it.
Not knowing why but I only see the RedHat Linux Apache Server Test page on your website.

Maybe it's due to the Taiwan earthquake few weeks ago....

H.T.

Thats because I took it down. I was kind of working on it to make it load faster like dem other sites. Now take a look :www.yeahjamaica.com
It loads a bit faster but I still have work to do. WHat do you think?
Let me hear your suggestions.
htchien
Advisor
Posts: 2013
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:10 pm
operating_system: Mac
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
Location: Taipei, Taiwan

Post by htchien »

Yes, now I can see it.

It works well when I use IE7 to see the website, but it's worse when I use FireFox....

Use FireFox then you might know what I'm talking about.

It's an issue of PI 11 (and earlier versions). I think it might have been fixed in PI 12....Well, I think I will check PI 12 by myself later.

Regards,
H.T.
Ted (H.T.)

[color=red]The message is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights. For official tech support please contact Corel Tech Support.[/color]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/htchien]My YouTube channel[/url]
pmedia
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:14 am

Post by pmedia »

Thanks for the quick reply
I think I will try version 12 and see what happens.
Let me know how veesion 12 works for you.
GOINGTOBAHIA

Post by GOINGTOBAHIA »

The code on your site looks ok. But I did notice that everything is a JPG image and that's probably why it loads slowly. You should check to see the size of the images and minimize the file size.
User avatar
Ron P.
Advisor
Posts: 12002
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 12:45 am
operating_system: Windows 10
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
motherboard: Hewlett-Packard 2AF3 1.0
processor: 3.40 gigahertz Intel Core i7-4770
ram: 16GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 645
sound_card: NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 4TB
Monitor/Display Make & Model: 1-HP 27" IPS, 1-Sanyo 21" TV/Monitor
Corel programs: VS5,8.9,10-X5,PSP9-X8,CDGS-9,X4,Painter
Location: Kansas, USA

Post by Ron P. »

Here's a couple of freebies that I have used...

http://www.nvu.com/index.php

http://software.visicommedia.com/en/ (Ace HTML Pro), which I used the Freebie, to update my website. My Website
Ron Petersen, Web Board Administrator
MaryLouW
Posts: 136
Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:06 am
Location: Northern California

Post by MaryLouW »

I would never, ever use PI to create a professional type page. The code is bloated and the images are chopped up into tiny bits that load extremely slow. It also is not compatible with other browsers. In FireFox, it looks really bad because there are a lot of white "holes" in it. Netscape would probably display it that way too. I've never seen a decent looking site created in any version of PI that loads with any amount of speed. It will load faster on a second visit but only if the visitor hasn't emptied the cache between visits.

Your page has the makings of a very nice page but .... PI isn't the way to go, in my humble opinion.
[url=http://pircnet.com/]PhotoImpact Resource Center[/url]
[url=http://wwell.net/]Wishing Well Tutorials[/url]
[url=http://pircnet.com/forum]PIRC Forum[/url]