Vista Support!

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:52 am

One feature that I credit XP highly with is the backward compatibility mode. I was able to run a program that I had with Win3.1.1. A very simple one, called WinCard or Notecard, something like that. I had used it as an address book several years ago. I found it on a disk, and was able to run it with XP. My question is, Does Vista have backward compatibility? By what I've read I'm guessing the answer is "NO".

If not, then IMO, this is nothing more then MS playing bully once again. You either spend all your hard earned cash, so you can be granted the exclusive priviledge of being able to use your PC. If not then, I guess you're not entitled to run a PC. Oh yes, don't feed me the crap about you can use another OS, like Linux or BeOS, or switch to a Mac. If that's MS's mentality, then it may not be that long before it gets knocked off it's high and mighty throne. MS thought it dominated the Office environment too, however there are several other freebie apps now thanks to MS's attitude. More and more people and corporate users are going the open source route, because they just can not continue to afford this constant increase in the rent.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:05 am

Here is another example of Microsoft
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34523

Here is an anology of the so called upgrade to Vista.
Ever watched the movie "The Day After Tommorow"
Global warming caused an Ice Age!!

njdowding · Post by **njdowding** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:59 am

But the OP was related to why PI would not run on an OS that is now being shipped with new PC. Surely main stream software should be running on Vista now or very soon.

The response was to rubbish Vista based on what experience I dont know and to say stick with XP. That is no answer, Like it or not Vista is shipping on new PC every day and PI needs to run on Vista as soon as is possible.

As for the discussion related to upgrading to a new OS that is a different conversation altogether. As I said you could see the same resistance to change when the switch from 98/ME and 2K was made to XP. Now its the same. Vista has some good points and some down sides and it would be wrong to give the impression that it is only a DOWNGRADE to quote Steve and Heinz. Unless you can substantiate it through personal experience of course?

Nick

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:23 am

OK getting back on track. Yes new PC's will ship with Vista and like it or hate it, Vista will be here to stay.

Please view:
http://www.ulead.com/spotlight/vista/runme.htm
Ulead VideoStudio 10 Vista Pack

No mention of an update pack yet for PhotoImpact and Vista is not listed amongst the Supported Operating systems but no doubt an update pack will be forthcoming.

Just to make my point a bit more clear, don't be in a rush to alter your operating system because your computer itself may not be up to the extra requirements. When I installed a Beta Copy of Vista (OK the RC version will have had various enhancements made) upon restarting the computer and allowing it to settle down with just the desktop running and any 'normal' background processes such as screen saver, anti-virus etc.
A check of the Windows Task manager revealed a whopping 512 MB of RAM was being used. Many of our members only have that amount of RAM anyway and would soon begin to struggle when they begin to run a program. That could be something heavy such as a video editing suite, or something not quite as heavy such as a Microsoft Office application.

If you want Vista for any reason - you must also have or be prepared to upgrade to a computer system plus peripherals capable of running it.

GKDantas · Post by **GKDantas** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:16 pm

I dont know about all people here but I work with 3D (Carrara 5 and Hexagon2 and many others) and a good machine is needed to work a little happy in this world.
So I have a P4 2.4 with 1 Gb RAM and a NVidia GFX5200 with 128Mb...theres not a big computer (maybe 2 years old now or more) and the Vista RC1 works great here.
I have the same fear with MS in the past but now Vista looks a more solid OS and the major softwares run more quicly and smooth with it then in XP.
Some crashes that I had in XP never more happen here in Vista... the patch for VS10 is great and now it open 5 times more quicly and run smooth then in XP.
So I think that its a big deal to have a new OS upgraded like we do with ours softwares. And yes we need to always think in the future, some softwares will be get older and note supported by others OS, this is the real thing...

bigmir · Post by **bigmir** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:23 pm

sjj1805 wrote:OK getting back on track. Yes new PC's will ship with Vista and like it or hate it, Vista will be here to stay.
Please view:
http://www.ulead.com/spotlight/vista/runme.htm
Ulead VideoStudio 10 Vista Pack

Tell when updating under vistu will be made? PhotoImpact works only with files a problem and so all works on hurrah!!!
In advance I thank

GKDantas · Post by **GKDantas** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:04 pm

Yes PI works on Vista with the problem witg UFO file (an alien problem). But here I get problems instaling it... so now I have to give permission to iniciate the PI executable.
Other thing: when I upgrade my Video Studio to the Vista pack it get very more fast then before! I hope this happen to PI so it can use the new directX... only a few days befora the end of the month... Vista is im my basket to buy.

alan927 · Post by **alan927** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:13 pm

I will be purchasing a laptop soon, and when I went to Best Buy and Staples yesterday they were already almost out of laptops with XP. The ones they had left were "not the best."

It was the same for desktops, although they had some signs up saying "buy a Vista computer now and pick it up on Tuesday." I've never seen empty shelves like that at Best Buy.

So yes, starting Tuesday all new PCs/laptops will have Vista (except Macs!). Support from Ulead will be needed quickly, and I will be one person running it soon.

Hopefully the OS will be more secure as MS has promised. I really want to get Ultimate and try Bitlocker disk encryption, personally. But I'm a computer security geek.

GKDantas · Post by **GKDantas** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:03 am

Well Vista is on tge road now and in this link from MS http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/conte ... 94&tabid=1 you can see that PI is one "latest software for Vista" but until now no patch to the Vista problem...I want to work with it for real and burn my old PS from my machine! What Ulead and Corel have to say for us now??
Yes I know that its only 3 of february...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:34 am

Why not pick up an extra hard drive and create a multi-boot system.
One with Vista the other with XP.

Here's the multi-boot method I use which differs from the traditional multi boot method but has plenty of advantages:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 7194#57194

GKDantas · Post by **GKDantas** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:19 am

No way! I think that its not a solution... I will spend hard drive space and money (to get 2 windows version) running on a system and PI is the only that cant work right with Vista, I know that isnt a Ulead problem but now its time to launch the patch... the VS patch works great here. I know that they will patch PI too...so lets wait a little.
What is hard is the silence about news... I have the same problem with others softwares from Daz that dont speak nothing about upgrades and patches.
I think that its time to open beta releases for the register user.

alan927 · Post by **alan927** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:34 pm

Getting XP drivers for a new computer designed for Vista may not be possible.

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:02 pm

alan927 wrote:Getting XP drivers for a new computer designed for Vista may not be possible.

Sounding more and more like M$ thinks we are not allowed to make choices, other then some other system. The only reason I migrated from Win98se to XP, is new computer. However I will not be buying another for a few years. XP does have Compatibility mode where I can still use some of my programs that run on Win98. However I wonder if this is going to be possible with Vista. If no XP drivers then.... I'll kiss PC goodbye when I choose to purchase another computer, or just stop using them altogether..

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:58 pm

WHy will you kiss computing goodbye if there aren't xp drivers for programmes you are running on Vista?

Ron it doesn't make sense.

Any XP programmes made will have xp drivers, vista has a compatibility mode.

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:01 pm

I didn't know that they included Compatibilty Mode with Vista. However everything I keep reading about it, makes it (as they probably want) more confusing as to what you will need.

I guess my main point is, it seems like it is going to be such a change that most current programs will struggle to run on it. If companies will issue patches or cash in and require a purchased upgrade. The cost can get prohibitive to upgrade current machine to this OS. My "new" 1.5 yr old PC could not run it. I can not meet the RAM (2Gig) to run it and anything else. So I would have to rebuild it, or buy another, just to "Upgrade" an OS. Like I stated in my PM, I basically had to buy another PC, because XP will not run on my older one.

Think about it, if you wanted to get a better stereo in your car, you would go buy another car???

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