Vista Support!

[jsdoyle]

Ok, Vista is out and I'm not happy with Vista's support for PI .ufo files! They won't open nor will Vista let me even move one of these files on my system. That's right!!! Open My Documents, try to move one of the files and it hangs the system.

So, I'm using PI 10, I see on the Ulead site they are working on updates for their products. Will that include a patch for PI 10? Or, will I have to upgrade to PI 12 or PI 13??

Any patch so far that will let me just move a .ufo file??? This is pretty crazy.

I have some website logo's and graphics that HAVE to be updated. So, I'm screwed until Ulead comes out with and update. I'm not blaming Ulead here, it seems to me to be more a Vista issue.

But, I'd love to be able to update my illustrations!

Thanks,

Scott Doyle

ps. Sorry if I sound like I'm ranting (I am but feel better now )

[sjj1805]

Perhaps a small tip to any of our members interested in downgrading to Vista.
Either partition your existing hard drive or install a further hard drive to your computer. Install Vista on the new partition or hard drive, thereby creating a multi-boot system. You can then boot to your tried and trusted Windows XP whenever you have problems with the Vista Operating System.

You may be interested in my method of creating a multi-boot system which differs from the 'normal way' of creating one.
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 7194#57194

[zforray]

I just hope that when they "adjust" PI12 for "Works With Vista", they don't have to dumb it down, like they did with VideoStudio 10. Especially since I have been waiting for PI12 updates to support my new Canon Rebel xTI in RAW. If you haven't already, go look at the patches for VS10 to make it "Works With Vista". They had to remove all kinds of features/plugins since these removed features weren't supported by Vista.

I certainly won't be buying or even contemplating Vista. Not sure why anybody would put themselves through the torture of being "first on the block" to have Vista.

Ok, Vista is out and I'm not happy with Vista's support for PI .ufo files! They won't open nor will Vista let me even move one of these files on my system. That's right!!! Open My Documents, try to move one of the files and it hangs the system.

So, I'm using PI 10, I see on the Ulead site they are working on updates for their products. Will that include a patch for PI 10? Or, will I have to upgrade to PI 12 or PI 13??

Any patch so far that will let me just move a .ufo file??? This is pretty crazy.

I have some website logo's and graphics that HAVE to be updated. So, I'm screwed until Ulead comes out with and update. I'm not blaming Ulead here, it seems to me to be more a Vista issue.

But, I'd love to be able to update my illustrations!

Thanks,

Scott Doyle

ps. Sorry if I sound like I'm ranting (I am but feel better now )

[htchien]

PI 12 will soon be updated with update pack to be Vista compatible, if my source information is correct.

H.T.

[heinz-oz]

Even with that patch, it will take me years to be personally 'VISTA ready" I will NOT downgrade my hobby with a piece of ill concieved cr*p like that.

Anyone wanting to run Vista better gets him/herself a certified machine for that and only use software with certified drivers. I only changed my video editing machine to XP Pro because of the NTFS file system advantages and only updated that to SP2 after I read many peoples reports that the latest patches had fixed issues with that.

To edit my videos and process my digital images I need something that works. Thus far, XP Pro is doing that nicely.

[htchien]

I agree people might take years to upgrade to Vista (so do I), but there will be always a need from some users to have a taste with new OS....

H.T.

[njdowding]

Its the whole Win2K great XP c@*p thing all over again. Suggesting a dual boot system is unrealistic. What about all the new machines shipping with Vista? Do you expect people to go out and buy a copy of XP just so they can run some software. Wont happen.

Ulead needs to get its act together and get their software working on Vista properly. Vista will become widespread much quicker than you guys seem to think and actually it has some good new features too. Have you guys actually tested it? I have

Ulead fell over themselves to get blu ray support into MF so much so that they released it too early so why the delay in getting Vista support?

Nick

[TootieFruitie]

Vista isnt really ready for a public appearance yet. Thou out of beta on on the shelves now, many will wait for the sp2 version before any purchasings. And I suggest to wait till the sp2 comes out. Me, I'll stick with my xp home sp2 till I am forced to buy Vista just like I was forced to get xp when I got news in December 2005 that win98 support/updates would be stopped in June 2006.

[htchien]

Hi Nick,

Its the whole Win2K great XP c@*p thing all over again. Suggesting a dual boot system is unrealistic. What about all the new machines shipping with Vista? Do you expect people to go out and buy a copy of XP just so they can run some software. Wont happen.

Ulead needs to get its act together and get their software working on Vista properly.

I agree, and it's the reason why Ulead (and other ISVs) need to release Vista update packs for its current products.

Vista will become widespread much quicker than you guys seem to think and actually it has some good new features too. Have you guys actually tested it? I have.

For users who buy new systems, yes Vista will be widespread very quickly. For most users who already have their own systems, I would say Maybe.

Like you, I have tested Vista for a long time. And honestly, I'm a little disappointed about Vista. However, it's only my opinion.

Ulead fell over themselves to get blu ray support into MF so much so that they released it too early so why the delay in getting Vista support?

Because they need to get Microsoft to verify their products so they can get the Vista compatible (or Vista certified) logo for their updated products then people can know the product they buy can run properly on Vista. Does this answer your question?

Regards,
H.T.

[TootieFruitie]

That's it, H.T.
Many developers are having this issue of ms not allowing access them to the core in vista. Symantic (Norton Anti-Virus) made a big stink as so has many others. MS is slowly allowing developers in, ever so slowly...LOL
It's mentioned in many computer/tech news releases.

[Ron P.]

As far as downgrading my system to Vista, I still have a machine running Win98se. My wife uses it, for checking email, playing a few simple games, and building cooking recipe database. I checked into upgrading it to XP, however would have been cheaper to buy a new PC. Then she prohibits me from buying another PC for her.

The PC I use came with XP home, and was apprehensive about XP. I have come to like it, and can see nothing that will force me to change. So I'll still be running it 10 yrs from now.. For people like me, affording this constant "you have to upgrade" has gotten way out of hand. Leo Laporte stated on TechTV a few years ago, that MS has entered into the rental business. You don't buy any software anymore, you rent it, every year. Well I'm going to get my money's worth out of this rental....

[TootieFruitie]

Downgrade? I think you me upgrade. XP upgrade should be less then $100 now. That's what it sells for here.
You're so right with the yearly fees. It's ridiculous!

Yes, Corel will be dealing with Ulead customers now. Boy are they in for a treat...LOL

[sjj1805]

Nope we meant what we said
Downgrade.

[skier-hughes]

I've been using vista for many months and it is a great improvement on XP. It won't run succesfully on my office pc, too old and incapable, but it works really well on my video editing machine. (dual boot with XP on two WD raptors)

It'll create the same sort of problems as XP did when it was released, new computers will work well, recent computers will generally be fine after a little tweaking with drivers, old computers, where most people pick up hookey copies of Vista will cause many problems.

It amuses me that some people say they don't like the continual upgrade of winodws and stick to what they like, yet have the latest versions of Ulead software
I run adobe premiere/photoshop, but am still on version 6.5, why? I like the way it works, I know how to use it, it works well on my machine and I don't want to spend another £1,000 to have to learn how to manage new ways of doing things and have the facility of editng highly compressed divx videos which I hate and HD which I won't be buying into until it is more mature
Which is what people are saying about waiting for the Vista SP releases

OK, as a Microsoft MVP I get to beta test from early on, but that means I get to see it improve, and improve by leaps and bounds it has since it first came out to us.

Would I buy it as an upgrade? I suspect not.
Would I be happy to get it on a new machine, yes indeed.
Will I be using it? Yes, but getting it for free is one of the very few perks of MVPdom.

[sjj1805]

Upgrading your software is one thing upgrading an operating system is another.

If you upgrade your software, if you are using the current latest version of an operating system chances are that the software will work with it, you may need to check the power of your processor, RAM and Free Hard Drive space.

Upgrading an operating system can mean spending lots of money on
a. A new computer because the cost of upgrading the current one would not make financial sense.
b. Upgrading lots of peripherals such as printers, modems, video cards. sound cards and seveal other items of hardware because drivers no longer work with the new operating system or they are not identified or certified by it.
c. Upgrading software because it is no longer compatible with the new operating system.

If your current system works and does what you want it to do, why approach the Bank Manager for mortgage?

I am sure that with a band new computer Vista will no doubt work fine.
I work for a large organisation which is heavily computersied with well over 7,000 computers. Now imagine the cost of upgrading that little lot!
No wonder my workplace is quite content to stick with Windows NT4.

So for the majority - yes it is a DOWNGRADE unless you are willing to fork out lots of money. Your current computer will not perfrom as well as it currently does without upgrading these other items.