how to copy and past whole timeline?

palutte · Post by **palutte** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:38 pm

VS10. Is it possble to copy and past a part of the slideshow to other timeline location in the same project? I still haven't figured out how. While copy menu is active the paste remains dimmed out.

The purpose is to copy and past 1.5 min long slideshow with transition and pan & zoom effects, including it's title track, to it's end 4-5 times.
To make it repeat 4-5 times to match with audio.

In order to add slides again - Pan and zoom trimming is rather time consuming. Exporting video and importing to the end may have poor results, if video is rendered twice.
I guess it's possible to paste a copy a part of project?

Tia

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:48 pm

Try,
Switch to Storyboard view

Select first clip to be copied, hold down the crtl key and click the last clip to be copied, all the clips in between should now be selected. Right click and copy. Move to the end of the storyboard and right click, paste.

(Sorry can't check if it works as I am not in front of my own computer at the moment.)

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:13 pm

Hi

Afaik you can only paste to the library

Render the slide show to a video file, then use the video file mutiple times

Trevor

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:20 pm

In that case here's a way that will not involve re-rendering or creating another video file.

Because you are taking clips from the middle of your project
Step 1. Save your project. You will now be able to return to where we are currently.
Step 2. Remove the unwanted material before and after the bit you wish to copy. You may need to tinker with the ripple editing settings to make sure whats left is kept together.
Step 3. Save this as another videoStudio project file (different name to the one given in step 1)
Step 4. Open the VideoStudio project file created at step 1.
We are now back to where we were at step 1.
Step 5. Import Video. The 'video' to be imported is the VideoStudio project file created at step 3.

palutte · Post by **palutte** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:33 am

As told, I have tried selection and copy, but under right menu there even doesn't exist paste option. This functions works as expected in DVD PS but didn't work in MF5+. Looks like doesn't work also in VS10, while still I'm not absolutely sure ...
After trimming each slide transition, pan & zoom several hours, one can understand that copy and paste is next function which is most expected.
The video export and import may reduce quality, at least there is another step, which possibly can produce unexpected results, when rendered twice.

Also there doesn't seem to exist an option to merge several projects.

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:58 am

For those functions, such as copy/paste within the timeline, you need big brother MSP. This simply is not one that is included. It was requested, along with being able to cut clips in the overlay tracks, and to add transitions to the overlay tracks during Beta, but was not included.

VS10+ is a simplified cut-down, consumer version of MSP. It is meant to be as simple to use for the consumer, with the least amount of learning curve, yet provide some extra features, where pro-quality results can be achieved, and at a very reasonable price.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:05 am

As Trevor says, you copy the selected images, then if you hover the mouse in the library pane, and right click, you should now see Paste. The selected images will be copied to the Library and will still appear highlighted. From there you can drag and drop them back into the timeline.

If you still can't see the menu command for Paste, then use the keyboard alternative Ctrl+V. Again, the selected images should now appear in the Library pane.

You will not see Paste if you right click in the timeline...

As for joining several projects in the timeline, simply right click, choose Insert Video, and then find your VSP project files and select them individually as if they were video files. A progress bar should appear, and each project should then be added to the timeline. You can then render a single new file which contains all of them (Share > Create Video File). This was a new feature with VS10.

palutte · Post by **palutte** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:03 am

Thanks for useful tricks.
The first trick sems to be limited to single images only, or should it store also image sequence with transition, pan & zoom? That's my first glance assumption, when trying the trick. Or did I missed something?

Second trick to handle vsp as video may be difficult to figure out and certainly is of a a great help. It seems to handle a vsp as video, transition effects with title text are all embedded into single continuous track. Or is it dpendent on project settings, that inserted VSP is handled as separate objects as original? So that it's objects can be edited as in the original VSP? As told, right now my timeline inserted slideshow VSP is a single stream like video. ( I believe that not)

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:38 am

Download and then unzip this so that the two vsp files are located at
c:\projects

Open demo2.vsp

Here you will see what I have described in action.
I have only used colour blocks and a few fancy transitions so the file size is only 4KB.

http://www.steve-jones.pwp.blueyonder.c ... l/demo.zip

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:50 am

Re 'trick' 1: no, transitions etc are not copied.

Re 'trick' 2: the whole of the project(s), transitions, editing, titles, background audio, music etc, is copied to your timeline. All those files are still on your computer so they are all still linked. But VS treats the project as though it had already been rendered as a whole as video.

KoNanSteel · Post by **KoNanSteel** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:19 pm

I have created a template project which contains titles and all the transitions, etc. My intention was to include this template project on the front end of each project I created holding mainly video clips. My thought was that once I merge the two projects together (i.e. the title template project and the video project) I will be able to modify the part that came from the template and only change the title texts with out changing the transitions, etc. It appears, after reading this thread, my assumptions about VS10's capabilities were wrong.

If I am reading what has been said in this thread correctly, VS10 simply cannot allow editing of a project imported into another project. Instead, this imported project is only a "flat" file where the details of construction are not available for editing.

If I have misinterpretted what has been said or implied in this thread, could you please clarify?

If my interpretations about this thread are correct, are you saying that MSP (please identify which versions) can do what I have described?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:20 pm

Your assumption that importing a vsp file is a flat file that cannot be edited is correct. What you may be able to do as an alternative is outlined in this link
Re-Linking-Replacing slide show images.

MediaStudio Pro is a different kettle of fish.
MSP contains the Smart Compositor which enables you to create (short) sequences that enable you to replace videos, images, sounds etc
It also has more powerful 'replace' options than VideoStudio.
With MSP you can right click on a video or audio and simply select to replace it with another.