HD-dvd ISO file??

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:41 pm

I am trying out MF5 because I was told that I could create a HD-DVD ISO file.

I have imported my HD video from MSP8 and I can create a hd-dvd folder but the ISO create button is greyed out... Is there some secret that I am missing here??

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:24 am

That option was available on very early versions of MF5. But Ulead removed it because at the time, the specs for HD/BluRay weren't finalized yet. I'm not sure if any of the update patches will re-enable that button...

Regards,
George

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:11 pm

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:49 pm

maddrummer3301 wrote:I still have a copy of that original release.
Is there a workaround? Do you have to actually burn an iso file.
Burning the HD-DVD folders then creating as a data disk.
Wonder if the players will pick that up and play on the HD-DVD players.
I would think you have to burn the dvd in UDF mode only. Maybe trying ISO/UDF but pretty sure HD discs are straight UDF because of the large disk size and file sizes.
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Well... I can already burn and play hd-dvd's with another program. But the problem I am having is with layer breaks on the DL dvd.... The SL disks work perfectly, but I can only get 25 minutes on a disk. I am getting freeze ups though, on the toshiba HD-A1 player with the DL disks.

Soooo... I'm experimenting with other programs to see if I can get rid of the freezes

You can do hd-dvd with MF5, but it looks for a REAL hd-dvd burner and a REAL hd-dvd disk (the other program I am using allows you to go straight to a normal dvd with a normal burner), so there are a bunch of extra hoops you have to jump through to get to the final results... I am just trying to find the easiest hoop!

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:48 pm

If you are using Ulead DVD MovieFactory 5 Plus (5.3.107.0) then you might have a workaround.

Burn the HD DVD folder in DVDMF 5 Plus, then go back to the DVDMF launcher to create a DVD data disk, it will invoke the Burn.Now 4.0 component to create a data disk project. Bring the HD DVD folder into the data disk project then burn the disk with UDF 2.5 file system and close the disk. After the burning in Burn.Now 4.0 is finished, you can take the DVD disk to any HD DVD player to try.

However, the size limitation of the HD DVD project cannot be larger then the DVD disk you wish to burn.

If you are using Ulead DVD MovieFactory 5.0 (not the Plus version), then you need to upgrade to Plus so you can get the Burn.Now 4.0 component.

You can also use other data burning software that supports UDF 2.5 file system to burn the HD DVD folder, if you do not wish to upgrade to DVDMF 5 Plus.

Hope this helps.

H.T.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:18 pm

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:24 pm

Thanks HT....
I had a look at your suggestions and although it APPEARS possible, the whole thing does seem a bit more complicated than it needs to be. The program I am using now does it as easily as creating a normal dvd... The problem of course is as I mentioned above... layer break freezups on the DL disks... and I am beginning to think this is more the fault of the player as oppose to the program and/or disks.

From what I have been reading on the AVS forums... of the few that have used MF5 for this sort of thing.... they suggest layer problems as well.

Oh well... the Toshiba A2 machines are out and will be in my neck of the woods soon... I'll take a test disk down to my local store and see if the A2's are better.

Thanks again

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:26 pm

maddrummer3301 wrote:Chien, Thanks, so it's UDF 2.5

Bob,
Can you use Nero to burn the dvd? Will the other program allow you to create an iso file OR can you take a burnt DL dvd that the computer can read and create an ISO file with that.
Reason is using Nero after selecting your burner goto "Options"(Bottom Left Corner) and in the right hand corner select "Burn extended lead-out on Dual Layer Dvd's" or something worded similar to that.
The extended lead-out is needed for the first layer I think to pad it out to the full range. Anyway, I had the same problem burning DL Dvd's until I selected that option in Nero. I create the ISO file using whatever software to do the job and Nero to burn the ISO file or dvd folders.
I think I have most of those options checked ON under Options.
That's where I also changed the "BookType" to DVD-ROM so the DL DVD+R disk will play in my panasonic recorders. The ability to change the "BookType" depends on your dvd recorder. If it's not capable then the option will not show up.

Hope that works,
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That's the route that was suggested on the AVS forum.... and they have layer break problems as well. Soooo.... it doesn't make much sense at this point to change the way I am doing it now.... My present route is a snap... just those pesky layer breaks!!

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:28 pm

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:35 pm

maddrummer3301 wrote:Have you burnt any Dual-Layer DVD's in the dvd format and played them on your HD-Player or any other standard dvd players. Good chance it's the burning method your program is using to burn the DL dvd's and not the player.
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Yeah... normal dvd's with layer break work fine... It's just the HD-dvd's that are causing headaches. Maybe about 20% of the DL disks I use for Hd-dvd actually get past the layer break. The problem with the toshiba player of course is that you can not recover from the freeze without reboot the machine. Both layers themselves work fine... in other words, if use the TIMESEARCH feature to jump over the layer break, then I can play the second layer fine. It just seems that the machine can't handle the break itself.

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:41 pm

Found the problem...

It wasn't the machine... it was the disks. I went and bought the top-of-the-line Verbatim DL disks and not only is the layer break working, but it's just plain undetectable!