vertical still images appear horizontal in timeline??

Peta · Post by **Peta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:46 am

Can anyone give me some advice please? I have started to have a problem (never used to) with VS10+ and still images. Some appear vertical (as they should be) in the library clip, but when added to the timeline they switch to horizontal. This applies to images that I have rotated prior to insertion AND some I haven't touched before inserting to library and then the timeline.
Any ideas please?

Thanks

peta

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:12 am

How did you rotate them? In a viewer? You might find that the viewer only rotates the thumbnail, not the actual image. In most viewers, if you actually rotate the image, you lose one genration of quality because the image is saved/compressed again after the rotation. The same happens when you rotate the image on your camera automatically because the image is shrunk to now fit the hight of the window with what used to be the width.

The program PhotoExplorer, comes free with PhotoImpact, is one of the few programs that can rotate the image without losing quality.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:27 am

You learn something new every day on this Board! I have PhotoImpact but have never even opened PhotoExplorer, which I have only now noticed actually was installed with PI. I know nothing about it, other than this one interesting fact. Thanks, Heinz!!

Peta · Post by **Peta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:28 am

Thanks for the reply Heinz, but in some cases I didn't rotate them at all. Just as they were downloaded. They appear correctly vertical in the library thumbnail clip, but appear in the timeline as horizontal. I have made a temporary fix by rotating them 90 degrees clockwise, saving them and then relinking them. Now they appear correctly in the timeline!

It's not the solution but it's a work around for the moment. This never used to happen so I'm not sure what is wrong.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:04 am

As I said, Peta, the thumbnails do not necessarily reflect the orientation of the source image. They don't even reflect the actual image content. Try it once just for fun. Have a look at an image that you have duplicated to preserve the original in your favoured viewer. Close the viewer and edit the image to make it B&W. Go back to your viewer and I bet, the thumbnail is still in color. Insert that into the time line of VS and you should get a B&W image on your time line.

Don't know what happened but have never heard of VS rotating still images at will.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:16 am

While it does not solve the basic mystery, I assume you are aware that there are rotating arrows which can be used for this purpose also within Video Studio. With the photo in question highlighted in the storyboard, in virtually the dead centre of the editing screen of VS10+, though very slightly to the right, there are two arrows pointing in opposite directions, with 90 under each. They speak for themselves.

Peta · Post by **Peta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:45 am

OK Heinz not sure I understood your suggestion but what i did with other photos I did with your suggestion - I took one of the photos, saved a copy, called it 'test'. I changed 'test' to B&W saved and closed. Imported it into Ulead - it came in as B&W and viewed in all programs I might use as B&W.

Ken - thanks, yes I was aware of that capability, I was intrigued as to why the rotation applied prior to inserting the image in the timeline was not being reflected in the finished pic.