Why can't I hear the audio during Multi-Trim in VS 10?

JustOneOfMany · Post by **JustOneOfMany** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:45 pm

I too have the same problem as Metmot. No sound at 100% playback in clip mode.

Tried to fiddle around with the 99 and 101 % and the sound is ok.

Never thought of that so simple solution.

Thank you Metmot,

Pierre

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:05 pm

metmot wrote:Also I have yet to get any audio in multi trim.

metmot wrote:Audio loud and clear in the clip and multi trim modes.

JustOneOfMany · Post by **JustOneOfMany** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:21 pm

I'm sorry did not want to confuse the issue.

I do not use this option. I just use the scissors. So it is a solution to my problem but not in a muti trim option because the properties are set back to the original ones.

Pierre

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:34 pm

Sorry for sounding confusing Black Lab. I have audio loud and clear in multitrim when the program is installed on another machine. Not my main video editing computer. Which is the one I am trying to use. I have been doing experiments to try to figure out what is wrong. Obviously there is no audio in multitrim as justoneofmany pointed out because the properties are reset to original. I have the user's manual and the tutorials and they speak of very little useful for this issue that I can find.

Does anyone know why there would be no audio at 100 only? Now I know it isn't just an anomaly on my computer. Uninstalling and reinstalling the program did not help.

John

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:03 pm

Hi John

Very strange only being silent at 100%.

Does this audio problem occur with every video file, or is it just the one type.

Just to give us a bit more reading, what are the properties of the video file?

Have you tried other types of video file?

Trevor

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:32 pm

Now I think I am getting some where. After trying different clips out I realized that the ones that have the problem all have something in common. I tried some wma audio clips and they work as expected. Same with MPEG layer 3.

The trouble is that the ones I have been working with I created the MPEG file myself and simply chose to use settings the same as project to make rendering as quick as possible. For reasons I don't quite understand it used LPCM audio. I just went with the defaults since they work good once burned to DVD. All of these clips with LPCM audio are the ones that wont play right. Codec issue? I re rendered one of them using mpeg layer 2 audio and it works as expected.

Funny that VS would allow me to create an mpeg file with audio properties that it itself could not decode properly later. Any thoughts on this?

John

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:11 pm

This gets curiouser and curiouser!

(L)PCM audio is the rock standard audio for DVDs -- and is also the audio format for video captured in DV format from a mini DV digital video camera. If you can capture DV and hear audio, then the codec is there ... or should be. On my system (just checked with Sherlock) it is associated with DirectShow Runtime and is supplied by Microsoft in the standard quartz.dll file in the system32 sub-directory of Windows.

As for the anomaly at 100%, I cannot account for it. While I don't use multitrim either (and in fact have never done so, even to experiment), I have no trouble with audio playback of clips trimmed with the scissors and played at 100%. The only audio format I have ever had trouble with was in fact MP3 produced with the LAME codec...

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:23 pm

I know LPCM shouldn't be the problem Ken. It ships with windows as you say. What should be and what is many times are not the same thing in computers.

Since I have VS installed on two machines and it works on one correctly and not the other I decided to do another experiment. I copied the entire VS10 directory from the computer it worked on and replaced the directory on the one it doesn't. These two computers are actually the same computer as I have stated I have it set up dual boot with two completely different instances of XP installed on different partitions using boot magic.

This had no effect just as reinstalling the program didn't. So now I am thinking about maybe one of the other programs which I have installed on the computer is somehow messing things up with a shared resource? Just grasping at straws. I also don't much use multi trim and since I figured out it works at 99 or 101 then I may just live with it. But I like a good puzzle to solve anyway.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:23 am

Sorry if this has already been covered but it the last post I had chance to see tonight, just going by your last post where you think something may be conflicting.

You can try this, and even if it doesn't cure this problem its worth having anyway for a number of other uses.

Create a Video Editing Profile

I'll try and get chance to read the full thread tomorrow.

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:52 pm

Thank you Steve you hit the nail right on the head.

This is what I was trying to accomplish when I made my machine dual boot but I made it way to hard. Instead of installing two operating systems I could have just done as described in your link. I find it is just too time consuming to reboot to access the other OS plus installing other programs on both partitions etc. At the time I didn't realize I could accomplish the same thing with another profile. Much simpler. Of course I could just use the other OS when editing and it is functioning just fine. I am just kind of anal and when my computer doesn't do as I expect I want to root out the answer. Even if it is much quicker to work around it.

It is pretty clear that something is conflicting based on ruling out just about every other thing I can think of. Since the audio is just fine on my "clean" partition more or less proves it in my own mind.

I am going to take some time later to reconfigure as described and I will be very surprised if things aren't good.

John

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:22 pm

Just as I thought. The perfect solution. A dedicated profile for editing video only.

Thanks again Steve. I would recommend this approach to Pierre and NB51 as well as every video editing person out there. As Steve said, there are lots of good reasons to configure this way and no good ones not to.

Now I can delete my other operating system and use the space to fill with useless video projects. A dedicated profile was always the answer but I just didn't realize it when I built my second partition and OS. It takes only seconds to switch back and forth in case you need the internet and solves virtually all of these types of conflicts.

I will likely not ever know the actual conflict but I no longer really care to find out.

John