Why can't I hear the audio during Multi-Trim in VS 10?

nb51 · Post by **nb51** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:21 pm

I'm trying to use multi-trim (but I suppose the same problem exists for regular trim) to edit a file, but I can hear NO audio!

How am I supposed to determine exactly where to make trims if I can't hear the audio?

The file plays perfectly fine in every player on my system, including the audio. But when I try to multi-trim it in VideoStudio 10, I can't hear a thing.

What's up and what can I do?

System:
- Homemade Intel Box
- Abit IS7 mobo
- Intel P4 dual-thread 3.2GHz
- Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2
- Plenty of audio and video codecs installed, including all those necessary

nb51 · Post by **nb51** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:16 am

I still need help with this. Am I supposed to hear the audio while editing in VS10? I can using other tools, such as PowerDirector.

So.... <bump>

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:50 am

Hi

I have just tried Multi Trim (VS 10)and do hear all audio whilst performing the trim operation.

I do not normally use this option.

Trevor

nb51 · Post by **nb51** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:12 pm

trevor andrew wrote:Hi

I have just tried Multi Trim (VS 10)and do hear all audio whilst performing the trim operation.

I do not normally use this option.

Trevor

Thanks! That's important info. I don't know what to do with it, though. Any suggestions?

And I'm not sure precisely what you mean by "option". Just to be clear, are you saying there's an actual option to enable audio while trimming?

Or, perhaps, are you referring to the option to split the audio first before trimming? I haven't tried that because it just didn't seem relevant to what I want to do. Am I mistaken? Is not doing that what has caused my problem?

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:20 pm

Hi

Sorry i was just referring to Multi Trim in general. I do not use it.
I trim using the scissors in the timeline.

Do the clips play audio from the timeline.?

Have you checked your audio's master volume settings on the pc.

Trevor

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:25 pm

I think Trevor meant I never use that function (multi-trim).

You should have sound always, no way to include or exclude it.
This is something outside of VS, your audio drivers or sound card settings.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:13 pm

NB,
I know this will not help but I can only report that audio has always played during playback within Multi-Trim-Video (MTV) screen. I haven't a clue why yours doesn't work.

I used to use MTV but do not any more because of Video Studio's nasty habit of throwing out transitions that border the clip you are editing. You can waste a lot of time dividing a video clip into several smaller segments and when you are done, VS puts up the message about deleting transitions and it is sometimes difficult to know which were deleted and where the hell they were. (If you divide a long clip into 6 pieces within a large project, you have to examine (playback) seven different junctions to decide where and what to reinsert.)

IMO, there is no sound reason why they delete transitions but even if there were, they could easily save the types and durations and reinsert them after making the MTV cuts. That is exactly what we users have to do manually after they toss them all away!

In any case, the Scissors control is quick, easy to use and precise to a single frame. When VS wants to play its transition deleting game, at least I don't have the large investment of editing time that MTV entails.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:11 pm

John -- I take your point about transitions made by you and others in this and other recent threads. As someone else has 'kindly' pointed out today, I have said in the past that it is something I have learned to live with -- much as I too would like to see it corrected, or at least give us the option of a library pane with most used transitions.

But I am surprised that you express difficulty in knowing where transitions have been moved from exactly. I can see that anyone would have difficulty doing so in timeline view. But it is a simple matter of just going into storyboard view with one click of the mouse, and the grey panes where the transitions normally are tells the whole story very quickly. In fact, I never insert transitions in anything except storyboard view...

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:31 am

Ken,
T'is na doot me aged memory wot causes the problem.

I work mostly in timeline view because I do a lot of playbacks. I also find the Scissors control simple, precise, straightforward, and it works directly on the Main Preview image. (why have two, three or four different preview displays with timelines that show essentially the same thing but have slightly different controls? (capture, edit, MTV, Burn, ...))

Actually, Ken, I am working up some rage to feed my annual New Years RANT in the, perhaps, vain hope that Ulead will finally fix some of its longstanding, persistent problems for the springtime release of version 11.

Edit 12/15/2006: I have moved my rant to the VS11 thread, where it is more appropriate.

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:19 am

I think the poster did not mentioned about the properties of the source clips?

H.T.

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:44 pm

OK just to give some support to the original poster of this thread.

I too can hear no audio in the clip or multi trim view when editing video. I have to review it in the project mode to hear audio. Nothing I have tried including different types of video changes this. This only occurs in VS10. I still have VS9 installed and it does not behave this way. I am sure it is not a computer or sound card issue as a previous poster stated. If this was the case then clicking the view to project play back from clip play back would not change anything. Up until I read this thread I thought I would find the answer in a setting eventually as I haven't been running VS10 all that long. Now I think it is a bug in the program as it obviously isn't just me.
It hasn't been a huge deal because I can find the spot to cut in the project playback but as the poster stated it makes multi trim completely useless.

Back to the wish list. Fix what exists that is wrong first and then take some real time to develop new features that arent hokey (anti shake filter come to mind in the what the heck good is this catagory?). People will always find out the truth so advertising new features that are not maturely developed is no more than shallow marketing.

NO sir you are not crazy or alone.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:06 pm

Hi metmot/nb51

I have had audio problems on occasions.

Each time the fix was to re-install the audio driver on my pc.

I can only say that at present my audio with multi trim is working ok

Trevor

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:16 pm

I just had a thought.

I am still using the trial version I downloaded of VS10 having used version 9 for a long time prior.

Could this be one of those issues with the download version people have talked about? Just a new one which hasn't been of yet linked to the download version?

I will try to reinstall the audio drivers but am doubtful since all other audio including project playback is fine. But what the heck.

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:06 pm

So I reinstalled an updated audio driver and reinstalled VS 10 with no change.

Here is the odd thing. I have set my computer up to be dual boot. I have an entire identical OS of windows xp on the same machine that is not hooked to the internet so it has clear resources. No AV, just the minimum to edit video on. This was an experiment which turned out not to help much of anything. The thinking was by not having a bunch of stuff running editing would be smoother. Ultimately I added another gig of ram and have much more success. As a result I rarely log on to the other partition I made but I did today to find out if the audio behaved the same way. It does not. Things work just fine in the other system on the same machine. Audio loud and clear in the clip and multi trim modes. Same downloaded version of VS10 trial. I have only 4 more days to buy or lock the thing down. I am thinking of just going back to 9 and waiting for 11. This audio thing is weird. Any more Ideas? I would like to solve this thing now that It's on my mind.

By the way I have a home built machine running xp sp2
Athlon 3200+ socket a processor running at 2.3 gigahertz
MSI delta force motherboard with 2 gigs of pc3200 ram, on board audio by creative sound blaster. Nvidea geForce 4mx Video card.
3 internal ide hard drives totaling 870 gigs and a 500 gig external for backup.

metmot · Post by **metmot** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:49 am

OK so I discovered this:

If I am reviewing a single clip for editing and have the volume at 100, the audio goes mute. If I change it to any other setting than 100 I get audio.

99 is fine. 101 is fine. Any other setting I get audio. 100 equals zero apparently. This must be a software issue, no way related to my hardware.

Also I have yet to get any audio in multi trim.

If and when I do I will post the results.

John