Creating a MPEG-2 file in VS 10 Plus question

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Creating a MPEG-2 file in VS 10 Plus question

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Using this tutorial: http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/vsone.htm

I have 40 minutes of video that I have captured. I have followed the jonesgroup tutorial step by step. Everything has worked great through creating the AVI file. Creating the AVI file took approx. 20 minutes. Now I close VS 10 Plus. Now I open VS 10 Plus. I then drag the AVI file into my timeline. The following pop-up, I click no. Then I click share, then create video file. I then click custom. I choose MPEG files. I click the options button and set the ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO, GENERAL, and COMPRESSION exactly as you have in your tutorial. I then clicked the OK button. It says in the tutorial that converting the AVI file to a MPEG-2 file should only take a few moments. It took 4 hours to do this. Any help in telling me what I might be doing wrong would be very much appreciated.

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After creating your edits do not create an AVI file instead create a DVD compliant MPEG2 file. Otherwise you are simply wasting time because the AVI file will have to be converted into MPEG2 in order to make the DVD VOB files.

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jblank37 wrote:Using this tutorial: http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/vsone.htm

I have 40 minutes of video that I have captured. I have followed the jonesgroup tutorial step by step. Everything has worked great through creating the AVI file. Creating the AVI file took approx. 20 minutes. Now I close VS 10 Plus. Now I open VS 10 Plus. I then drag the AVI file into my timeline. The following pop-up, I click no. Then I click share, then create video file. I then click custom. I choose MPEG files. I click the options button and set the ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO, GENERAL, and COMPRESSION Select DVD (Pal or Ntsc) exactly as you have in your tutorial. I then clicked the OK button. It says in the tutorial that converting the AVI file to a MPEG-2 file should only take a few moments. It took 4 hours to do this. Any help in telling me what I might be doing wrong would be very much appreciated. The time is reliant on the type of conversion, the amount of editing and the speed of your pc, quite variable. I convert Avi to Mpeg in about 2.25 times. that is 40 minutes would take 90 minutes.

Thank you,

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Re: Creating a MPEG-2 file in VS 10 Plus question

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jblank37 wrote:Using this tutorial: http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/vsone.htm

I have 40 minutes of video that I have captured. I have followed the jonesgroup tutorial step by step. Everything has worked great through creating the AVI file. Creating the AVI file took approx. 20 minutes. Now I close VS 10 Plus. Now I open VS 10 Plus. I then drag the AVI file into my timeline. The following pop-up, I click no. Then I click share, then create video file. I then click custom. I choose MPEG files. I click the options button and set the ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO, GENERAL, and COMPRESSION exactly as you have in your tutorial. I then clicked the OK button. It says in the tutorial that converting the AVI file to a MPEG-2 file should only take a few moments. It took 4 hours to do this. Any help in telling me what I might be doing wrong would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Friends, John
The step I have highlighted in red is in fact unnecessary and at that point you should create a PAL DVD or NTSC DVD - dependant upon the part of the world you are in. In fact if you read the final part of Jerry Jones tutorial he does explain that his reason for creating a PAL DV or NTSC DV file is for storing a copy of the edited file for future use.

Only problem is that this assumes you will not be making alternative edits to the original material where you may decide to not just cut pieces out, but in fact keep in previously deleted bits.

The only sure way of preserving everything so that at a later date you can if you wish re-edit is to keep your vsp file and all of the original material.

You should aim to render the least number of times - preferably once.
You do this by creating the MPEG2 file directly from your edited material.
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Post by jblank37 »

sjj1805 and trevor, I thank you ever so much on this. Next time I will try leaving out the step of creating a .AVI file. I hope it will reduce the time a little. Again, I thank you.

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Re: Creating a MPEG-2 file in VS 10 Plus question

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jblank37 wrote:Using this tutorial: http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/vsone.htm

I have 40 minutes of video that I have captured. I have followed the jonesgroup tutorial step by step. Everything has worked great through creating the AVI file. Creating the AVI file took approx. 20 minutes. Now I close VS 10 Plus. Now I open VS 10 Plus. I then drag the AVI file into my timeline. The following pop-up, I click no. Then I click share, then create video file. I then click custom. I choose MPEG files. I click the options button and set the ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO, GENERAL, and COMPRESSION exactly as you have in your tutorial. I then clicked the OK button. It says in the tutorial that converting the AVI file to a MPEG-2 file should only take a few moments. It took 4 hours to do this. Any help in telling me what I might be doing wrong would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Friends, John
Hi,

If you followed the exact settings in STEP 60 of that tutorial (for encoding your mpeg), that would mean you used a VBR two-pass encode at 9200kbps. At this high bitrate, I would say you do not need to do a two-pass encode (because that effectively just about doubles your encoding time, and I don't think the difference in resulting quality between a one-versus-two-pass encode would be visually noticeable given the high bitrate being used).

Assuming your source is DV .avi, I would recommend the following changes to those suggested settings (if anything, this should cut down the encoding time you experienced, and the resulting quality should be about equal to what you already did -- it will be subjective, so compare them on your TV to see if there's any visual difference)
-move the "speed-quality" slider from 70 to 95
-uncheck the two-pass option (i.e. use a single pass because you are going to be using a high bitrate anyways)
-change the data-rate from Variable to Constant
-change the bitrate from 9200kbps to 7000kbps

Regards,
George
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