Why does Videostudio constantly swap to the hard drive?

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rjacek1

Why does Videostudio constantly swap to the hard drive?

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This program is continuously swapping to the disk. The problem is getting worse everytime that I open another project. It seems that everytime another project gets started, the program has to use more and more disk space. This is ridiculouis. I have 3 GB of memory. I have monitored Videostudio while it is crunching on the hard drive and noticed that the prgram is totally ignoring the memory. It is not even utilizing all of that memory. Instead it just keeps using the drive. I have waited up to 20 minutes to open an existing project. There does not seem to be
an option to adjust the disk swapping or utilize the memory. How can I eliminate the hard drive usage?
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

Twenty minutes to startup Video Studio ? Terrible. It takes closer to 20 seconds on my system. Is your copy of 10+ downloaded or installed from CD? What are your computer specs?

Have you set up the swap file properly, set DMA all all drives? Have you defraged your hard drives? How much free space is on your hard drives? You can monitor hard drive usage using the Windows Task Manager - Performance tab. Does it increase as VS starts? Mine just grows from 366MB to 440MB when VS opens. When I open a project, it grows to 480MB (I have only 1GB of memory).

If these are set properly, it sounds like reinstallation of Video Studio is the next step.
rjacek1

Why does Videostudio constantly swap to the hard drive

Post by rjacek1 »

I have an AMD 3800+ 2.4Ghz 64 bit processor. I have monitored VS in the task manager. It does not utilize the memory and just consumes
more disk space. I have 85GB of free space on the hard drive. I removed VS, ran Desk Cleanup and Defrag and then reinstalled VS and the service
pack update. It did not fix the problem.
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

You have a problem somewhere, the response rate of video studio is a little slow compared to other windows programs, but tolerable.

May be cos vs uses ¡¥big¡¦ files and ¡¥word¡¦ files are insignificant

VS 10 boots in 20 seconds, a little longer on the first boot.

Time to open a project varies depending on the content of the project.

But a big project, may be 10-20 seconds
A slide show with 150 images 5-10 seconds
An edited video (60 minutes) with one avi or mpeg----no time at all.

Content plays a big part.

What type of files are you using in the project?

If you create a new project using the samples from the library, how does it compare.

Trevor
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

Trevor,
Your suggestion to try the video clips that are supplied with Video Studio brings up a long standing problem with these clips. They are not typical or representative of what the average user finds in his camcorder. They use Indeo compression and when you put them in the Edit timeline, VS does not behave as it does with Mpeg or DV files. For example, you can't even pull the properties into the Project Properties in a new project.

So, if anyone from Ulead is listening, in version 11, how about dropping the Indeo samples and instead, include some vanilla flavored samples that we all find in our camcorders and ones that are already DVD-compliant: DV and mpeg2. For HD users, HDV mpeg2 and AVCHD clips would be quite beneficial. These would be far more valuable for new user instruction / experimentation than Indeo (whatever that is... :shock: ).
heinz-oz

Re: Why does Videostudio constantly swap to the hard drive?

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rjacek1 wrote:This program is continuously swapping to the disk. The problem is getting worse everytime that I open another project. It seems that everytime another project gets started, the program has to use more and more disk space. This is ridiculouis. I have 3 GB of memory. I have monitored Videostudio while it is crunching on the hard drive and noticed that the prgram is totally ignoring the memory. It is not even utilizing all of that memory. Instead it just keeps using the drive. I have waited up to 20 minutes to open an existing project. There does not seem to be
an option to adjust the disk swapping or utilize the memory. How can I eliminate the hard drive usage?
The only thing ridiculous about this is your expectation that anyone here could even remotely hint at a solution. What have you provided to base our advice on?

Get real man, the behaviour you describe is not normal. Have you set up your preferences properly? Which other programs do you have that utilize 3 GB RAM? VS, MSP and MF run perfectly well on just one GB. AFAIK, there is very little software that can use over 1 GB. That's completely besides the point though. Have you tested your memory? It might be faulty, although, you would get errors then rather than just swapping to the HDD.

In order for anyone to offer meaningful advice, we need details from you.
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

I agree with you John that the samples are very poor as samples go, some not even having audio content.
But using them should prove ok. Time wise that is.

I am not sure if the OP has problems opening Video Studio, or is the delay only in opening a project.

If the delay is related to the project content, using the sample video should prove this.

rjacek1
The question is¡Xdo you have the same slow response with every project you use.

If you cannot find any video files to create a project, there may be some you can try in the library.


Trevor
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Does your project (which takes a long time to load) consist of lots of small video clips which are small sections of a single large video file?
I have noticed in the past that when I created a project by pulling in the large video file, selecting a short section as a clip then pulling the same large video file into the project and selecting another short section of it as another clip then when VS loads the project it seems to read the large original video file until it finds each clip doing the same read (of the large video file) for every clip within the project. So if the original video file is say 2Mb in size VS seems to read the 2Mb file for EVERY clip contained in the project. This of course will slow down the loading of a project. Hope I have explained that sufficiently. If not leave me a message to explain better.

I am now using the "detect scene change" method of capturing video where VS creates a separate short file every time it detects a change of scene (during capture) which it does by comparing the date/time of each scene. This way you end up with lots and lots of small video files during capture. It also places each clip into the timeline automatically and you can then re-arrange the clips, change the length of each clip or remove unwanted clips as required. This is a lot faster than pulling a large clip into the timeline and then marking in/out each clip you require.
I have just timed how long it takes me to load a project which consists of 167 clips (which are separate files) for a total length of 31 minutes (with no transitions or audio files) and the first time I loaded the project (after starting up VS10+) it took 28 seconds and the second time (after the same project had been previously loaded) it took just 14 seconds.
How many clips in your project and what is the total time of all the clips?
I am sure earlier versions of VS would load a project faster than this but VS9 and 10 have a lot more features and so may load projects differently than how earlier versions used to.
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heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Has anyone here noticed how long it has been since the OP added anything to his post? Maybe VS is still loading the last project since the 7th of December?
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Post by jparnold »

That's not nice Heinz.
Do you have any 'figures' on how long it takes you to load a project and how many video clips it contains and total length.
Also do you remember that earlier versions (v8 or earlier) seemed to load a project faster.
I wished I knew what VS10+ was doing when it loaded a project. Does it actually read each file fully? If so then that would account for slow loading times as to read a 6Gb file (total of all clips in my latest project) takes quite along time (for example to copy that much data to another file(s) )
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heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

I know John, usually I'm not known for being nice :wink:

I only made the remark to draw anyones attention to the fact that we did not get any new input from the OP since early Dec. That's all.

I don't know how long it takes for VS 10+ to load, never timed it. The few times that I have used it, it didn't seem to take very long though. Then again, I only had a little test project going at the time.

Maybe I should investigate this :?
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Heinz Oz / John

Well I was the last poster back in 2006.
I think the slow response may be a virus.
Its slowed the pc and the OP¡¦s response.

I do not think he / she is the only poster to suffer from this anomaly
Not to worry tomorrows a new day.

John
You said (If so then that would account for slow loading times as to read a 6Gb file (total of all clips in my latest project) takes quite along time (for example to copy that much data to another file(s) ))

How slow?

I find it a little slow but not excessive, seconds rather than minutes.

I do not think the size of file is relevant but the type of file and amount of extra clips in the other timelines, audio, titles, images etc.

Happy New Year

Trevor
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