Multi Track Transitions (like fades)

jmcumber · Post by **jmcumber** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:56 pm

Can someone explain how to apply a transition from an overlay track (say track Video 2) to the next clip in the timeline. The Video 1 track has an overlap of clips and those tracks transition, but the Video 2 track needs to have the transition also.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:59 pm

Which Version of MediaStudio do you have. Things changed with Version 8 where you simply overlap your clips to create a transition.

jmcumber · Post by **jmcumber** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:01 pm

I have Media Studio Pro 8.0.

I hope what I am asking for is clear. I have two clips. One is the primary clip (clip1) on Video 1. The second is an overlay clip (clip2) on Video 2.

I then took another clip (clip3) and inserted in Video 1 with an overlap so I could add the transition.

What I am trying to do is get clip2 (the overlay clip) to transition to clip3 like clip1 does.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:33 am

Please view:
Inter track Transitions

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:36 am

I think you need to use nested timelines for this.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:02 pm

If it's just a simple fade, you can apply a transparency overlay filter and adjust an intermediate keyframe to the starting/ending point of the fade.

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:14 pm

There are many ways to do it, but surely the simplest way is to use a virtual clip, as this is the sort of thing they were designed for?

If he adjusts the transparency of the overlaid clip, then decides he wants it to fade over (say) two seconds rather than one, he's got to make two changes - the change to the overlap and the change to the keyframe where the overlay transparency starts. If he uses a virtual clip, he just makes the one change to the overlap.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:48 am

jmcumber wrote:I have Media Studio Pro 8.0.

I hope what I am asking for is clear. I have two clips. One is the primary clip (clip1) on Video 1. The second is an overlay clip (clip2) on Video 2.

I then took another clip (clip3) and inserted in Video 1 with an overlap so I could add the transition.

What I am trying to do is get clip2 (the overlay clip) to transition to clip3 like clip1 does.

I have re-read this several times and to be honest am not quite sure what you are doing with clip 3.

If you have clip A on Video 1 and then Place Clip B on video 1 but overlap those two clips you get a transition.

If you place clip C on video 2 and Clip D on video 2 and overlap the clips you get a transition.

You don't get a transition between The videos on track 1 and the videos on track 2 They will 'cut' in or you can apply things like moving paths or the Terry Stetler method to achieve a transition between the tracks.

I have thought of a simple way to create the appearance of a transition between the two video tracks - all it involves is a simple cut.

Let us suppose you have clip A on video 1 and Clip B on video 2.
To make a transition of 1 second simply make a cut 1 second from the end of Clip B and also from the same location on Clip A. Now drag Clip B straight down onto video 1. What happens is the one second you dragged down forms a transition (on track 1) and then due to the cut the clip on video 2 takes precedence and 'hides' video 1.
Due to the straight cut the effect is seamless.

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:54 pm

I can't see why it's not making any sense to you, Steve.

He's got a clip on V1 at 0:00:00;00 lasting 5 seconds. He's got a clip on V2 at 0:00:00;00 lasting 5 seconds, with its overlay options enabled. He's overlapping a clip on V1 at 0:00:04;00 so you get a one-second crossfade (or whatever) between the two clips. He wants the crossfade to apply to the overlay, too.

OK so I've made up the start times and durations, but you get the picture?

If it's a crossfade, Devil's method works, but requires two operations if ever the crossfade duration is changed. One to change the overlap and one to move the overlay keyframe. My method (virtual clip) works just by changing the overlap, and also allows the overlap transition to be something other than crossfade.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:04 pm

Gorf wrote:I can't see why it's not making any sense to you, Steve.

He's got a clip on V1 at 0:00:00;00 lasting 5 seconds. He's got a clip on V2 at 0:00:00;00 lasting 5 seconds, with its overlay options enabled. He's overlapping a clip on V1 at 0:00:04;00 so you get a one-second crossfade (or whatever) between the two clips. He wants the crossfade to apply to the overlay, too.

OK so I've made up the start times and durations, but you get the picture?

If it's a crossfade, Devil's method works, but requires two operations if ever the crossfade duration is changed. One to change the overlap and one to move the overlay keyframe. My method (virtual clip) works just by changing the overlap, and also allows the overlap transition to be something other than crossfade.

I'd agree that the Virtual Clip would work very well here. The clips on V1 and V2 can be combined into one "Virtual Clip", and then it can transition to the 3rd clip in the main timeline

Regards,
George

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:33 pm

Thanks Gorf re-reading it that explantion appears to fit with his description in which case as has stated a virtual clip will do the trick.

I still think his original post is a bit ambiguous though.

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:43 pm

I'm skilled at dealing with ambiguous descriptions - Communication with my wife would end otherwise. I wish my video skills came close...