Installing VS10+ on Vista RC1

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Installing VS10+ on Vista RC1

Post by koocha »

Hi

I know it's not labelled as "Vista compatible", but I can't even get it to install.

I double click on setup.exe and it appears my hard drive chugs away, but nothing actually happens.

Any ideas?

I did a clean install last night of vista to try it out but, as nice as it is, I may end up formatting again and loading XP back on.

Thanks

Tim
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Post by sjj1805 »

If you do a search for vista on this forum you will find this has already been discussed several times already.

Quite simply Vista is not released yet and only exists in a Beta format.
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Post by koocha »

Hi

I did a search for Vista in the VideoStudio forum but couldn't find anything related to the installation of VS10+ - if you know of a thread please post the link.

I've read posts about people using VS10+ on vista, so I'm asking why I can't get it to install.

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The current release of VS10 does not support Vista!!! It is that simple. Ulead is working on VS10 Vista which will be released after Vista is released as Retail. A few have managed to get it to install, however can not get it to work. So why bother installing? To install, you have to change the User to Admin, or something. Even then it may not work.

Here's an example of why it will not work....

I have a Television, that was made 30 years ago, however I can't get a Hi-Def picture, why not?
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Post by joosuna »

Koocha..don't feel bad about experimenting with UVS and Vista. Lots of people are doing it and finding out the same as you have found out. So far, UVS is not compatible with Vista. Ulead supporters have informed us, a patch or version of UVS is going to be available in the future to make UVS compatible with Vista. So for now, go ahead and experiement, should you get it to work entirely well, let us know.
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Why is this so hard to comprehend? VS has not yet been certified for Vista. It won't install because it wasn't DESIGNED to. Would these same knuckleheads try to put a Ford engine into their Chevy? Would you try to play a DVD on your turntable? Man, I just don't get these people who expect the world to operate according to their specifications. I have no problem with experimentation, but when doing so it's best to have realistic expectations. Working with an OS that isn't yet available in retail channels and expecting to find help when your experiment falls flat is utter nonsense IMHO. But maybe that's just me. :evil:
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CycleWriter wrote:Why is this so hard to comprehend? VS has not yet been certified for Vista. It won't install because it wasn't DESIGNED to. Would these same knuckleheads try to put a Ford engine into their Chevy? Would you try to play a DVD on your turntable? Man, I just don't get these people who expect the world to operate according to their specifications. I have no problem with experimentation, but when doing so it's best to have realistic expectations. Working with an OS that isn't yet available in retail channels and expecting to find help when your experiment falls flat is utter nonsense IMHO. But maybe that's just me. :evil:
The person asked a simple/reasonable question, as politely as possible. There's NO NEED to deliver such a hateful, arrogant response.

By the way, sir...there are programs out there that are backwards compatible all the way back to Windows 95. To expect a program such as VS 10 to work with Vista is not THAT unreasonable, and the person's question did not warrant your rude response. Many programs that worked with Windows XP and earlier releases DO work properly with Vista! It's not comparing Ford with Chevrolet, or DVD with LP--that's a totally asinine comparison. If the individual who started this thread was expecting VS 10 to work properly with OS X, then I might be in agreement--but I still wouldn't be in agreement with your attitude.

BTW--to the individual who insists that Vista is still in beta--it has been OUT of Beta for several weeks...since November 8th, if you want a date. The finalized version will be hitting stores in late January for the average consumer, and is even available for download for folks who participated in the Beta program and filed at least one bug report. Folks who have a paid MSDN subscription are also free to download the final version at this point.

This is anything except a "help" forum...it is PATHETIC.
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The person asked a simple/reasonable question, as politely as possible. There's NO NEED to deliver such a hateful, arrogant response.
CycleWriter,
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Re: Installing VS10+ on Vista RC1

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koocha wrote:Hi

I know it's not labelled as "Vista compatible", but I can't even get it to install.

I double click on setup.exe and it appears my hard drive chugs away, but nothing actually happens.

Any ideas?

I did a clean install last night of vista to try it out but, as nice as it is, I may end up formatting again and loading XP back on.

Thanks

Tim
Tim, I did get a trial version of VideoStudio 10 to install onto the RC2 version of Vista...but it wasn't very useful, as audio wouldn't function in VS10 once it was installed. I also tried VideoStudio 8 to see if it would work--same thing happened.

From what I've read, the audio portion of Vista is vastly different from prior versions of Windows, and is supposed to be more reliable/less prone to crashing...this may be why VideoStudio isn't functioning properly.

There's something else you could try, but I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope. Vista, same as Windows XP, has a "compatibility" mode. Right-click on the install file for VS 10, then select "Properties," and then select "Compatibility." Put a check mark beside the "Run this program in compatibility mode for," and then select XP Service Pack 2 as the compatibility option. Perhaps it will at least install for you this way, but even if it does, don't be surprised if there's no audio once you try to run the program.

Good luck, and don't let the hateful individuals that seem to populate this forum get your down--they're not worth the time and effort.
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Black Lab wrote:
The person asked a simple/reasonable question, as politely as possible. There's NO NEED to deliver such a hateful, arrogant response.
CycleWriter,
To paraphrase my favorite wascially wabbit, "he don't know you very well, do he?". :wink:
I know all that I want to know after reading his response to a perfectly polite and reasonable question.
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wh5916 wrote:The person asked a simple/reasonable question, as politely as possible. There's NO NEED to deliver such a hateful, arrogant response.
Hateful? Arrogant? I was more questioning than anything else. And I submit that if he had done a sufficient search, he would have more likely found the several threads already ongoing on this subject before starting a new one. I was hateful and arrogant in those, as well. :twisted:
By the way, sir...there are programs out there that are backwards compatible all the way back to Windows 95. To expect a program such as VS 10 to work with Vista is not THAT unreasonable, and the person's question did not warrant your rude response.
It is unreasonable whether you buy that premise or not. Unless you are a beta tester, becoming such an early adopter should be done at your own risk. This forum is here to help people with problems related to retail software run on verified operating systems. It isn't a forum to help people experimenting with products that aren't even in the retail channel yet. Rather than my being arrogant for pointing that out, how about the poster's arrogance for expecting this forum to be able to help him? For instance, would you go to a motherboard manufacturer's website asking about overclocking (a practice known to damage components) or should you take that question to a more suitable site like a tweekers website that deals specifically in such activity?
Many programs that worked with Windows XP and earlier releases DO work properly with Vista! It's not comparing Ford with Chevrolet, or DVD with LP--that's a totally asinine comparison. If the individual who started this thread was expecting VS 10 to work properly with OS X, then I might be in agreement--but I still wouldn't be in agreement with your attitude.
I would guess that those programs are so simple in nature that Vista poses no conflict with them. A program as sophisticated as VS and that requires OS support for device drivers and software codecs is not likely to work out of the box with an unknown quantity like Vista. I would think someone with the sense to be able to use a video-editing program and the nerve to try beta software could make that clever deduction without help. Sorry if you and the OP proved me wrong.
BTW--to the individual who insists that Vista is still in beta--it has been OUT of Beta for several weeks...since November 8th, if you want a date. The finalized version will be hitting stores in late January for the average consumer, and is even available for download for folks who participated in the Beta program and filed at least one bug report. Folks who have a paid MSDN subscription are also free to download the final version at this point.
It is not a retail product yet. Nor has Ulead noted in the VS product info that it will work with Vista. On that basis alone, anyone trying to do so is in uncharted waters and should accept that they are alone...for now. They call them "Release Candidates" and number them specifically because they are not yet retail versions. Do you think that if MS had a complete and final version of Vista today that they would not release it in time for the Xmas buying season?
This is anything except a "help" forum...it is PATHETIC.
This is anything but a VISTA help forum. Ask a relevant, pertinent question and there are many here who will try to help.
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Black Lab wrote: CycleWriter,
To paraphrase my favorite wascially wabbit, "he don't know you very well, do he?". :wink:
As you know, I'm an acquired taste. :twisted: :wink:
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People just don't know you. Like a fungus you will grow on them over time. :wink:
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... And just to add my two cents worth of irrelevance, some 30 years ago, in my younger, more boisterous days, I had a BMW 520 whose engine I managed to seize up. My Dad replaced it with .... a Ford engine!!! (I couldn't afford anything else in those days...) :cry: :lol: :wink:
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Ken Berry wrote:... And just to add my two cents worth of irrelevance, some 30 years ago, in my younger, more boisterous days, I had a BMW 520 whose engine I managed to seize up. My Dad replaced it with .... a Ford engine!!! (I couldn't afford anything else in those days...) :cry: :lol: :wink:
Yeah, but did you go to the BMW dealer and ask him how to make it work? :wink:
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