Creating video that's 60 minutes per each 4.25 gb

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Creating video that's 60 minutes per each 4.25 gb

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Okay, first of all, I have the trial version of 10 +, because of course I wanted to see if it would do what I want it oto do before purchasing it, but perhaps the trial version is my probem altogether--donno.

I have a 2-hour project. The vob files I imported are formatted as follows:
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It's two hours of that format. I set the project settings and the output to match that, and after failing to get quality that mirrored the original vobs, tried tweaking the settings over and over again to no avail.

With a two-hour project, it keeps on making a disk or an mpeg file that's only 5.25 gb and looks fuzzy and soft.

Anyone know how I can keep the original quality?

Thanks!
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I suspect you'd have to burn it to a DL (8.5GB) disk to maintain the file properties.

Changing the file properties to make it fit on a single layer disk might entail reducing the bitrate down to 6000 kbps or so. That shouldn't reduce the image quality too much, but here's a possible alternative:

1) Output your project to a video file with the same properties, so as to enable smart render and avoid re-coding, and then use that to create DVD folders rather than a disk. These will be greater than 4.35Gb, the practical maximum to fit on a single layer DVD.

2) Use DVD Shrink (freeware) to shrink the DVD to fit on a single layer disk. There are options in Shrink to optimise the output, which slows the process down considerably but might give a slightly better result. Perhaps you should try using an RW disk, so you can gauge the effect/benefit for yourself.

If the end result using DVD Shrink is significantly better than the result using VS, it may point to there being something amiss with your VS procedure.

Not sure about VS10, but previous trial versions of VS have been fully functional as far as burning DVD's is concerned, so the trial shouldn't be the cause of your troubles.
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Thanks. I am using a DVD-DL disk, and I've also tried creating a video file wth the same properties, and it's the same each time--the two-hour project ends up only using 5.25gb, and looks like it's only using that much.
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Also, the trial version won't handle Dolby because of licensing issues, so maybe that's not factored into the size that is represented.
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scottfleet wrote:Thanks. I am using a DVD-DL disk, and I've also tried creating a video file wth the same properties, and it's the same each time--the two-hour project ends up only using 5.25gb, and looks like it's only using that much.
Have you tried strictly following the RP and creating one giant mpeg2 video file of your project? If so, how long did it take to create the file? This should tell you if the file output properties truly match the source material, and if Smart Rendering worked. (although without Dolby enabled, you'd have to transcode the audio to say, MPEG)

From my brief playing around with the VS10 trial, I did not see a noticeable image quality drop off from experimental rendered clips from commercial DVD source material.
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People keep saying that dolby digital 5.1 is disabled in the trial, but I don't think it is. After making the disk from the above-mentioned files (and rendering took forever, so although I tried to follow the RP I must be messing up somewhere), these are the properties of my new vob file from the disk made by 10+:
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Since you are burning to a DL disk and looking to preserve the best image quality, you should try using VBR9800, same as the original clips. Since you are able to use Dolby audio, VS should let you set the video bitrate up to 9800.

People do say that some set top DVD players have trouble with the higher bitrates, but the DVD standard is for the maximum video data rate to be 9800 kbps and the combined audio, video and subs data rate to not exceed 10080 kbps.

Anecdotal evidence suggests also that the cheapest set top players are likely to play the widest range of disks, and that the big name brands are less able to cope.
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Figured it out--it was smartrender that was messing it up. Turned it off and it was better. I also confirmed, by watching a disk I made with the little THX guy flying to each speaker, that I was able to create a disk in Dolby Digital 5.1 using the trial version.
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Post by Ken Berry »

Like others, I am pretty amazed at your ability to produce a DVD with 5.1 Dolby audio using the trial version. I recall, with VS8, that I was able to import and export AC-3 dual channel stereo Dolby, even though I did not have the requisite AC-3 plug-in. This was because another piece of video software had AC-3 included. So I am wondering if you have another program on your computer which actually includes 5.1 audio and, of course, the necessary codec... Otherwise, I have difficulty in believing that Dolby would be foregoing the licensing fees for the much more sophisticated 5.1 codec in the trial version, but still not allowing AC-3 dual channel stereo... :roll:
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