Problems with Analog Tapes

[waynejones]

I'm trying to capture a tape that was originally recorded on a Sony Hi-8 camcorder. I am using a Sony DCR-TRV120. It is capible of recording in DV format but can also play back analog 8mm or HI-8mm tapes. I'm using Movie Factory 5 plus.

When I begin the capture, I noticed the time code displayed at the right bottom of the preview window displays 0:00:00:00 and does not increment when the tape begins playing. The camcorder shows the tape position (time code) but for some reason it is not coming through to the software. The camcorder rolls for 10 seconds, then stops. The software saves 10 seconds of recording.

I have tried to capture using the "full DV tape" and Fixed Duration" options with no luck. I reviewed the camcorder's user manual and did not find anything that indicated there would be a difference in the time code output. The camcorder is connected to the PC using firewire.

Does anyone know if it is possible to force moviefactory to capture regardless of content or timecodes?

[maddrummer3301]

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[LB922]

I have the exact same problem as the orginal execpt I have a model TRV350. I tried the resolutions posted but it did not help.

No sure by what he meant by MF but I did try to manually start to the camera and then hit the capture key but again that did not work.

I'v got about 100 of these tapes and do need some help.

Thanks

[heinz-oz]

MF is geek speak for MovieStudio. If you have problems capturing to DV-AVI whilst connected by means of a firewire (IEEE 1394/iLink) cable there must be some hardware problem or you didn't set up your capture module appropriately.

[snoops]

Make sure to try non-MovieFactory Windows capture, for example MS MovieMaker.

If it works in Windows own and other software but not in Ulead MF, then InterVideo's capture stuff may be broken, which is now being used by MF.

There are several posted issues using MF capture with no posted solution. Just search for "capture dv".

In one case capture works with the old VS8 but not MF5+.

Sadly many selfish people just post their problems, let others spend their free time for free advice, and are too damn lazy to post the results for the benefit of others.

[htchien]

Don't be angry, Henry. It's their choice not to report back. I just wish their problems are been solved.

I want to thank you in personal for your kindly help in this forum. May God bless you.

Sincerely,
H.T.

[maddrummer3301]

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[LB922]

Yes, I am able to capture analog hi8 with our the software.

Snoop's reply about using VS8 is also correct. I have that version installed on the same computer and I can easy capture analog Hi8 thru my sony digital camcoder.

If that in "intervideo" software is corrupt, how do I correct that.

Thanks again.


Sorry if this post appears twice, I was not sure if the other one went thru.

[maddrummer3301]

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[maddrummer3301]

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[LB922]

In my last post I meant to say "with other software" not with "our software". Meaning that MF5 will not capture ( like the problem in the ogrinal post) but the PC will capture analog and digital using MS software and other video capture products. MF5 is the only one that does not work.

The confusion in a previous reply about how I got the analog and digital capture's. The SONY TRV350 will read (only) an analog tape but when taking movies it writes to digital and reads digital.

When I connect the camcoder via firewire and play an analog tape the camcoder converts the analog to digital on the fly and sends out to the PC via firewire. The only thing that does not get created is the "time" part. Hence unless there is a time stamp, MF5 will not work.

As I said, there MV8 does work and captures my analog videos via the firewire. MV8 is good and I would continue to use it but it is dreadful slow compared to other products on the market. That is why I went to go to MF5.

I hope this is a "BUG" that MF5 people know about.

[maddrummer3301]

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[snoops]

The confusion in a previous reply about how I got the analog and digital capture

Well, I was not confused.
Those Sony D8 camcorders allow you to play analog 8mm tapes, sending the digital DV signal output to the firewire port, which is converted by the camcorders internal hardware in realtime.

This seems to indicate that the capture modules of MF5 are sensitive to the timecode in the DV stream, or lack of it. This means it probably doesn't capture from certain analog-DV converters either.

So, until MF5 has a cure, just capture with software that works.
Of course this is no solution if you were planning to capture directly to DVD. But otherwise it's not a big problem... get your AVIs on the system and continue from there.

[heinz-oz]

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As I said, there MV8 does work and captures my analog videos via the firewire. MV8 is good and I would continue to use it but it is dreadful slow compared to other products on the market. That is why I went to go to MF5.

I hope this is a "BUG" that MF5 people know about.

Now you lost me somewhere how can one capture program be slower than another if you "capture" DV-AVI? DV-AVI is a simple transfer of the data from the cam to the PC via firewire in real time. So, whether you use MS MovieMaker, VideoStudio, MediaStudioPro or MovieFactory, a 1hour tape will take one hour to "capture".

You can use any capture program and edit your DV-AVI file with your preferred NLE afterwards.

[LB922]

To snoop's: That is a good point about analog/digital converting devices.

I do have an analog 8mm tape player that I could hookup to my video card and probably get it across that way, would be the same as hooking up a VCR to download VHS tape (that's my next project). It would be connected thru RCA plugs. How much video quality do you think I might loose going that route.

To Heinz-oz:

I know the capture part is the same speed not matter how you do it. That part that is slower is when it process it to make the DVD. MF5 was definitly faster than MV8.

If I capture with MV8 can I edit and make the dvd in MF5?