Best method to burn many DVDs
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GilbyTwins
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Best method to burn many DVDs
I am in the final assembly of my 8 year old son's Pop Warner team DVD. It's turning out pretty cool and I am quite proud of it.
My question pertains to burning of 35 disks, one for each member of the team. I do follow the recommended procedures, have created my video files, and am ready to burn the DVD. Question is....should I burn it to folders on my computer and then use NERO to make the actual DVD's or should I put 35 in the burn options of VS and let 'er rip. Anybody have any advice? I'll post one or two of the individual segments for commentary soon! Thanks!
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I would burn to a hard drive folder.
Suppose that at a later date someone else's asks for a copy - or one the 35 copies you burned with 'let em rip' is returned for replacement due to a faulty disc.
Are you really intending upon burning 35 all in one sitting?
I doubt it. The average burn takes 15 minutes per disc. 35 discs will take just under 9 hours.
Suppose that at a later date someone else's asks for a copy - or one the 35 copies you burned with 'let em rip' is returned for replacement due to a faulty disc.
Are you really intending upon burning 35 all in one sitting?
I doubt it. The average burn takes 15 minutes per disc. 35 discs will take just under 9 hours.
and, by using DVD folders as source, you could do the actual burning with a program that includes a Verify option.
That will also keep the amount of returned discs lower (not for you of course, since a bad disc is lost anyway).
That will also keep the amount of returned discs lower (not for you of course, since a bad disc is lost anyway).
This my understanding of it.
I have been proven wrong on several occasions in my life. It's not going to improve.
I have been proven wrong on several occasions in my life. It's not going to improve.
How long is your video, and what compression rates are you planning to use?
Do you have access to a second (or more) DVD Burner?
I've done PopWarner FB videos for about 5 years now, and usually end up making copies for the coaches and players. I create an ISO image of my DVD. Then I luckily have access to a second dvd burner -- so I copy the ISO image to my laptop, and burn the image from laptop to external burner (at least cuts the time in about half -- doing one from the desktop and one from the laptop). Mine usually come in at about 1 -1.5gb -- so they don't take too long to burn at 4x (my choice for burn speed for reliability/quality of the burn). Then again, last year I made a hockey DVD for a friend, and he mass duplicated all of them at 16x -- he didn't get one complaint from anyone not being able to play the dvd...
If you post some clips, let us know -- would love to see some other PopWarner footage
Regards,
George
Do you have access to a second (or more) DVD Burner?
I've done PopWarner FB videos for about 5 years now, and usually end up making copies for the coaches and players. I create an ISO image of my DVD. Then I luckily have access to a second dvd burner -- so I copy the ISO image to my laptop, and burn the image from laptop to external burner (at least cuts the time in about half -- doing one from the desktop and one from the laptop). Mine usually come in at about 1 -1.5gb -- so they don't take too long to burn at 4x (my choice for burn speed for reliability/quality of the burn). Then again, last year I made a hockey DVD for a friend, and he mass duplicated all of them at 16x -- he didn't get one complaint from anyone not being able to play the dvd...
If you post some clips, let us know -- would love to see some other PopWarner footage
Regards,
George
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GilbyTwins
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Response and question....
No I will not be burning all disks in one session. It will be....set it up, hit burn, and go work on my kitchen. Come back, change disks, hit burn, go work on my kitchen some more. You get the idea. I like the idea of creating either the folders on the computer or a disk ISO and also burning from my laptop and that begs another question.
I have my internal Plextor DVD burner on my desktop PC, but I also have a USB HP lightscribe DVD burner that I made the "label" of the DVD's with. Is there a way to burn on BOTH DVD burners with the same computer?
George W - Size of the disks? They are full. I have trimmed all of the highlights out of 12 hours of HD (Sony HDR-HC3) game footage and that comes to about 88 minutes. By the time I do player introductions (used digital juice Editor's Toolkit - Sports, Awesome!) a Monday Night Football type opening, and a wrap up to "The time of your Life" I have a pretty full disk.
I have my internal Plextor DVD burner on my desktop PC, but I also have a USB HP lightscribe DVD burner that I made the "label" of the DVD's with. Is there a way to burn on BOTH DVD burners with the same computer?
George W - Size of the disks? They are full. I have trimmed all of the highlights out of 12 hours of HD (Sony HDR-HC3) game footage and that comes to about 88 minutes. By the time I do player introductions (used digital juice Editor's Toolkit - Sports, Awesome!) a Monday Night Football type opening, and a wrap up to "The time of your Life" I have a pretty full disk.
Re: Response and question....
You could try it, but parts of your computer may not be able to follow the concurrent disk accesses and combined I/O rate. I'd do it with rewritable DVDs first, if it works then since DVDR are faster try one pair and test them thoroughly (i.e. play them to the end and look and listen).GilbyTwins wrote:I have my internal Plextor DVD burner on my desktop PC, but I also have a USB HP lightscribe DVD burner that I made the "label" of the DVD's with. Is there a way to burn on BOTH DVD burners with the same computer?
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I personally think it's looking for trouble.
This my understanding of it.
I have been proven wrong on several occasions in my life. It's not going to improve.
I have been proven wrong on several occasions in my life. It's not going to improve.
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I tend to leave my computer alone when its burning a disc.
Although most of the time you can do light stuff such as reading web pages whilst it is burning, I have found that if you do something 'heavy' such as opening a major program - like Microsoft Access - you risk the dreaded
'Buffer under run' or one of the other similar messages popping up.
Great way though of making a coaster for your mug of tea.
For that reason I wouldn't attempt to use more than one burner at a time.
Having said that though I have noticed at the computer fairs I attend every now and then, a Tower Unit containing nothing but DVD Burners - probably something the DVD pirates use.
Although most of the time you can do light stuff such as reading web pages whilst it is burning, I have found that if you do something 'heavy' such as opening a major program - like Microsoft Access - you risk the dreaded
'Buffer under run' or one of the other similar messages popping up.
Great way though of making a coaster for your mug of tea.
For that reason I wouldn't attempt to use more than one burner at a time.
Having said that though I have noticed at the computer fairs I attend every now and then, a Tower Unit containing nothing but DVD Burners - probably something the DVD pirates use.
True Steve, but these units have more than one CPU and more than one I/O subsystem. They are built to cope.sjj1805 wrote:Having said that though I have noticed at the computer fairs I attend every now and then, a Tower Unit containing nothing but DVD Burners - probably something the DVD pirates use.
(With my pale AMD2800 with an nVidia chipset I successfully burned one disc with VS on one IDE burner, and another with Roxio on the second burner, at 4x each. That's experimenting, but I'd never do that on a DVDR.)
This my understanding of it.
I have been proven wrong on several occasions in my life. It's not going to improve.
I have been proven wrong on several occasions in my life. It's not going to improve.
I do exactly the same with my rugby season DVDs. I create an ISO image with the first burn and burn from the ISO one-at-a-time (I have but a single DVD burnerGeorgeW wrote:~~snip~~
I've done PopWarner FB videos for about 5 years now, and usually end up making copies for the coaches and players. I create an ISO image of my DVD.
The finshed DVD is usually about 45 minutes long. Depending on how good the nightly CSI TV show is, I can do about three or four DVDs an hour.
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GilbyTwins
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Intro Video Sample
Here is a link to the Monday Night Football theme intro. It's in a Divx format. I reduced the size to 320 x 240 while converting to divx to keep the file small. A little grainy but you get the idea.
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Thanks for the thoughts on the DVD burning. A tower would be great but I'm not in that business. This is a once a year kind of thing.
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Thanks for the thoughts on the DVD burning. A tower would be great but I'm not in that business. This is a once a year kind of thing.
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Excellent Intro 
Is that a "D" Team
My son was on a "D" team this year -- we went 7-1, but got knocked out of the playoffs in the first round (close game at 13-7, and we were driving on the last possession of the game but came up 3 yards short).
Thanks for sharing -- the players/coaches are going to love a season highlights video
Regards,
George
Is that a "D" Team
My son was on a "D" team this year -- we went 7-1, but got knocked out of the playoffs in the first round (close game at 13-7, and we were driving on the last possession of the game but came up 3 yards short).
Thanks for sharing -- the players/coaches are going to love a season highlights video
Regards,
George
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The dvd duplicating towers have a system inside generlaly made by Acard or Microboards, which send the info out to all the burners. Simplified option.
I use one, well several, all the time with my work and am just trying to justify spending £16.5k on a new model.... Oooouuuccccchhhhhhh
You can use a programme such as Alcohol to burn to more than one burner at a time. It is very efficient and won't cause any trouble. Only trouble is that you need to buy it. You may find a trial copy, but it's beena while since I last used it.
I use one, well several, all the time with my work and am just trying to justify spending £16.5k on a new model.... Oooouuuccccchhhhhhh
You can use a programme such as Alcohol to burn to more than one burner at a time. It is very efficient and won't cause any trouble. Only trouble is that you need to buy it. You may find a trial copy, but it's beena while since I last used it.
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Re: Response and question....
Can I ask what the Digital Juice Editor's Toolkit did for you in that clip? (Very good, by the way. Gave me some ideasGilbyTwins wrote:By the time I do player introductions (used digital juice Editor's Toolkit - Sports, Awesome!) a Monday Night Football type opening, and a wrap up to "The time of your Life" I have a pretty full disk.
Jeff
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Digital Juice
For that clip I didn't use any of the Digital Juice. That was just plain old hard work with the audio view.
On May 11th 2011, the video the link points to will no longer be available. Google is discontinuing Google Video, since it acquired YouTube. Owners of video posted to Google Video must migrate their videos or they are deleted.
For this clip..... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5723026429 I used the Sports - Toolkit 8 of Digital Juice. It is VERY cool and well worth the $99.
Had a hard time with my chroma key as I was shooting the players as the sun was rising so I needed to clip each player and adjust choma on each. Kind of a pain, and not perfect, but it should work for 8 & 9 year olds.
On May 11th 2011, the video the link points to will no longer be available. Google is discontinuing Google Video, since it acquired YouTube. Owners of video posted to Google Video must migrate their videos or they are deleted.
For this clip..... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5723026429 I used the Sports - Toolkit 8 of Digital Juice. It is VERY cool and well worth the $99.
Had a hard time with my chroma key as I was shooting the players as the sun was rising so I needed to clip each player and adjust choma on each. Kind of a pain, and not perfect, but it should work for 8 & 9 year olds.
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That is VERY cool, both the Digital Juice effect and your work! I do similar stuff for my kids' teams. Let me ask, how long did it take to edit your 88 minute masterpiece?! (How many weeks?!)
Jeff
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