VS 10+ DVD Menu Templates

brianosmi · Post by **brianosmi** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:04 pm

I have upgraded from VS9 to VS10+ and I am surprised to find that I only have a few DVD menu templates to choose from, where as with VS9 I had many.

Did I do something wrong in the installation of the app or the content pack?

gordonwd · Post by **gordonwd** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:31 pm

VS10+ just does things a different way. But you can bring the set of menus from VS9 over to VS10, which is what I and many others have done. Check this discussion for some responses and other links: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=18120.

brianosmi · Post by **brianosmi** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:39 pm

Thanks for the link - I had looked at this earlier, but was looking more along the lines of moving some over from VS9 as you mentioned, which I do not see any info on doing that in this post.

Is moving the VS9 stuff over easy to do? Is it a no-brainer?

Also, when you say that VS10+ just does things a different way, please elaborate. I am interested in understanding this better.

Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide!

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:08 am

brianosmi

The link provided to you by gordonwd will lead you to this post

sjj1805 wrote:Point 1 - More templates.

MF5/ VS9 /VS10: Share Menus, Transitions between products <<=== click here

Tutorial: PhotoImpact: Creating DVD Menu from scratch

Point 2 - Fancy Titles.
Use Ulead Cool 3D Production Studio / Ulead Cool 3D
You will have a copy of one of these already as it came free with your purchase of VideoStudio.

brianosmi · Post by **brianosmi** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:55 am

Yeah, I looked right past that and didn't realize it was a link to another post. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Much appreciated.

Brian

CycleWriter · Post by **CycleWriter** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:56 am

sjj1805 wrote:brianosmi

The link provided to you by gordonwd will lead you to this post
sjj1805 wrote:Point 1 - More templates.

Steve, perhaps you can explain why Ulead would see fit to provide fewer menu templates to users of Ver. 10 than what came with Ver. 9? This seems so counter to what most software companies do. They generall provide more with an update, not less. And why doesn't Ulead make the Ver. 9 content available to Ver. 10 users for download on the website? Why does Ulead do so many things that just leave one scratching their head?

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:23 am

I have to agree with you Cyclewriter.. Most other software companies tend to pack more in their new releases. Ulead did pack more in VS10 + then VS9.
1. 6 overlay tracks
2. HD support
3. Dolby 5.1 and AC3
4. MPEG4
..anyway you getting the idea?? What I'm hinting at is this is a creative marketing strategy. Look at the price of VS9 compared to VS10+. Not much difference is there. So what it looks like they are doing is not charging more for the product, however giving you less. Kinda like a bag of potato chips. The company charges the same money for a smaller bag. What they have actually done is raise the price..

I too think that Ulead should put links to the content packs on their website. Not only for VS10 users, but for those that still use VS9 and may need to download them again, due to crashes or whatever. Afterall what is anyone that does not have the program going to do with the content files. You can get them for the PhotoImpact products, why not VS?

Now with that, I think the reason you don't find a lot of us complaining about it, is that with what little you are given, you are able to create numerous variations. When I first started, I too though that I needed more content. However in looking at the commercial DVDs, they most always use some content from the videos. I tend to follow that idea. I use my own photos, and creations for the backgrounds on the DVD menus, and for any label or covers. How can Ulead meet or beat that?

CycleWriter · Post by **CycleWriter** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:45 am

vidoman wrote:I have to agree with you Cyclewriter.. Most other software companies tend to pack more in their new releases. Ulead did pack more in VS10 + then VS9.

Allow me...
1. 6 overlay tracks - almost worthless without support for transitions.
2. HD support - high-end feature usefull for small number of users
3. Dolby 5.1 and AC3 - same as above
4. MPEG4 - same as above

I too think that Ulead should put links to the content packs on their website. Not only for VS10 users, but for those that still use VS9 and may need to download them again, due to crashes or whatever. Afterall what is anyone that does not have the program going to do with the content files. You can get them for the PhotoImpact products, why not VS?

If what I heard from HT in another thread is true, Ulead will soon be offering this content for sale on the website. How whacked is that?

Now with that, I think the reason you don't find a lot of us complaining about it, is that with what little you are given, you are able to create numerous variations. When I first started, I too though that I needed more content. However in looking at the commercial DVDs, they most always use some content from the videos. I tend to follow that idea. I use my own photos, and creations for the backgrounds on the DVD menus, and for any label or covers. How can Ulead meet or beat that?

I mainly use VS when I need a high level of automation. If I have to 'work' at it, I have other editing programs better suited to the task. Easy menu creation and SmartSounds are the main reasons I use VS, so it just makes sense that I'd want more content rather than have to put more effort into using the program. Now, if someone wants to e-mail me a zip file with the V9 menu content...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:07 pm

Transitions
A popular query raised on the User forum relates to the use of Transitions from earlier versions.
Version 9 has 3 categories of Mask Transition
Mask A with 21 Transitions
Mask B with 9 Transitions
Mask C with 18 Transitions.
Total 48 Mask Transitions.

Version 10 has a single Mask Category with transitions named
MaskA to MaskA6 (7)
MaskB to MaskB6 (7)
MaskC to MaskC6 (7)
MaskD to MaskD6 (7)
MaskE to MaskE6 (7)
MaskF to MaskF6 (7)
Total 49 Transitions.

The sale of DVD Menu Templates by Ulead is not something new
For a long time now you have been able to buy These DVD Template packs - they work with VideoStudio, MovieFactory and Picture Show.

It is similar to purchasing the Smart Compositor Pack for extra MediaStudio smart compositions. Not everyone feels confident enough to 'grow their own' or do not possess 'artistic qualities.'
By this I mean that anyone can pick up a paint brush but that does not make them a Leonardo Da Vinci and so they prefer to pay for someone else to do it for them.

Ulead have provided you with the tools to do everything yourself but recognising the fact that many would still prefer a professional to create various templates for them, they have provided that also.

Well done Ulead.

CycleWriter · Post by **CycleWriter** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:22 pm

sjj1805 wrote:The sale of DVD Menu Templates by Ulead is not something new
For a long time now you have been able to buy These DVD Template packs - they work with VideoStudio, MovieFactory and Picture Show.

Steve, first let me thank you for your always conscientious answers. I understand the need for additional revenue streams. Providing additional content for a fee is reasonable. My complaint centers around paying extra for content that was provided free with an earlier version. If Ulead wants to create new menu templates to sell to users, that's great, but they should also provide free access to content that was excluded from a later upgrade. It costs them nothing and can generate a lot of good will for their product. In effect, I'm being penalized for having skipped ver 9 when I upgraded from 8 to 10+. Giving upgraders and even new users access to content from previous versions just makes good business sense, IMHO.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:47 pm

I agree.

brianosmi · Post by **brianosmi** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:52 pm

Same here - it's the first time I've experienced this with VS. I've been using the tool since VS 6...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:38 am

Please view:
Suggestion for a Common folder

CycleWriter · Post by **CycleWriter** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:53 am

sjj1805 wrote:Please view:
Suggestion for a Common folder

Thanks, but that won't get me the additional menu templates from Ver 9 that weren't included in Ver 10, which is what we are griping about.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:05 am

If you look at the comparison chart further up this thread you will see that there is very little difference betwen the templates in V9 and V10.

There were large numbers of complaints about some of the flip transitions not working correctly in V9 and so logically I would think that the troublesome transitions were dropped.