Windows Vista RC1 (Ultimate) and VS9

[philipbcook]

I have been running Vista RC1 for just over 2 weeks now, on a spare machine, testing out all my existing applications, in anticipation of an OS upgrade.

I have to report that I have been unable to get sound playback to work at all using VS9 loaded onto Vista.

I am not complaining to ULEAD... they never claimed that VS9 was Vista compatible. I am concerned that Microsoft ship Vista without adequate support for pre-vista programs.

My diagnosis suggests that VS9 is relying upon some functionality in DIRECTSHOW to provide sound, and Microsoft DirectX 10 does not seem to have it.

So this is a warning to anyone using VS9 'shelling out' good money for Vista to also anticipate that they will need to pay for an upgrade to VS9.

If anyone from ULEAD can shed any light on the issue, I would be grateful, and a patch would be nice (ideally from Microsoft, since it is their product that has changed).

Anyone found the same problem ??

Philip

[Ken Berry]

Don't you remember when MS first brought out Windows XP which (some would say 'deliberately') was not backwards compatible with a huge number of third party programs? They made little or no effort to overcome the problem then, and personally, I cannot see them doing it with Vista. And the third party software manufacturers are unlikely to bring out patches for their existing programs. More likely would be a new version of the program which *is* compatible with Vista. And that will cost users more $$$, not to mention the significantly higher costs that Vista itself will entail...

[PeterMilliken]

I agree with Ken.

Based on past experiences with Microsoft OS upgrades I wouldn't move up to the new OS until most, if not all of my application software advertises itself as compatible with that OS - and by compatible, I wouldn't expect software vendors to upgrade previous versions such as VS 9 - certainly vendors such as ULead "may" provide a patch for whatever their current version happens to be - in this case, VS 10 - but only if they feel pressure from users and only if the next version of their product is too far down the pipeline!

Any excuse to make money

Certainly I won't be expecting Microsoft to be releasing any backward compatability patches - this would only happen if they thought their sales were significantly suffering!

Personally I will not be touching Vista until I am forced too - which I hope won't be for at least 2 - 3 years after it is released! The only reason I finally swapped over to XP (about 3 years after it came out ) was because of USB support - it was becoming too difficult to keep my hardware upgraded and remain compatible with my previous OS version.

I am hoping very much there won't be any equivalent factor emerge from the wood work that will "drive" me to Vista - fingers crossed. Every new version of Microsoft OS has cost me not only the upgrade price (which has always, in my opinion, been over inflated) but also expense in terms of hardware i.e. more memory, faster CPU's, bigger hard drives - all to cater for an increasingly bloated OS!

Peter

[sjj1805]

To save going over old ground please view:
MSP* and Vista

All that applies to MSP also applies to VideoStudio.

[maddrummer3301]

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[philipbcook]

Returning to the text of my original message.

My post is to warn VS9 users of the problem of up/down grading to Vista.

Vista is NOT compatible with VS9. end of story.

[CycleWriter]

I am concerned that Microsoft ship Vista without adequate support for pre-vista programs.

Aside from the fact that you are already one generation of VS behind, what do you expect? MS rarely cares about 3rd party application compatibility when upgrading their OS. That's why Windows has gone from an OS that could run on a 250mb hard drive with room for other applications, to needing over a gb just to install a basic copy of itself. By adding applets like MovieMaker, Media Player, a firewall, a backup utility, a web browser, and dozens of other "built-in" programs that are pale competitors to the aftermarket offerings, the obvious message from Redmond is that MS wants nothing more than to see the demise of 3rd party software developers. If MS can't decimate their competitor's sales with a better applet built into Windows, then releasing a new OS version that is incompatible with existing 3rd party offerings is another way to force them to spend money on redevelopment that would be better spent on features and improvements. The smaller software developers get crushed, the larger ones see their profits dwindle and new program development stymied.

Personally, Vista isn't in my future. From what I have seen, it will be trying to do so many things that are opposite of what one wants a video editing platform to be doing (lots of background tasks, internet connections, etc.) that I have no interest in it. Vista is destined to be the next Windows Me. Like XP, it is geared more towards casual users who want less OS transparency and an easier environment to navigate with cutesy things like even more ways to modify desktop and theme settings and very little in the way of actual OS improvements. I doubt that power users will be flocking to Vista any time soon. And 3rd party application developers with complex programs like video editing or 3D modeling will take their time figuring out how to optimize their programs to work in the Vista environment.