Video Capture Card - Which one please?

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Video Capture Card - Which one please?

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Hi Team
I have searched a great deal for information on what is considered a good video capture card and the only topic I found was one relating to a TV/Capture card. Can anyone recommend a moderate priced; less than $200.00 US video capture card. It has to be able to accept analogue input, both PAL and NTSC. No need for a TV option on it either. I am using a cheap device at the moment called "CompUSA Video Grabber, USB 2.0"
You can check the link below to see what I am using at the moment:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product ... eo_Grabber

Any advice would be much appreciated. Indeed if there are any links in this forum you would recommend , in case I missed them. :cry:
Kindest regards
Jim
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Post by Ken Berry »

The subject has in fact been discussed countless times, but a recent hacking attack on this Board site has, it seems, temporarily wrecked the search function.

It really depends what you want to do with your capture device. But well within your price range, there is the Adstech DVD Xpress DX2, which gets extremely good reviews. You can see it at http://www.adstech.com/products/USBAV-7 ... BAV-709-EF
I believe the price is in the range of US$100. Its singular advantage is that it has a hardware chip embedded in it which allows you to capture direct to mpeg-2 and have the Ads device do all the work. Normally, capturing direct to mpeg-2 (which is the basic format of DVDs) is a demanding process, and can be especially hard on under-resourced computers which might just give up on the job. This one can capture also to mpeg-4 and a couple of other well-used formats.

We normally recommend you try to capture even analogue video to DV/AVI format, edit in that same format, and only then convert it to DVD-compliant mpeg-2. The DX2 won't do that, unfortunately, but apparently does a very good job of direct capture to mpeg-2.

There are devices out there which unfortunately cost in the region of US$300 or more which can capture direct to DV format, and do an excellent job, but they would be outside your price range.

The usual alternative, though, is to see if your digital video camera allows pass-through i.e. where you can connect a VCR or analogue video camera to its AV connection, and the digital video camera connects to your computer via Firewire. The camera then acts as the capture/conversion device and sends a DV signal of your analogue tape to the computer for editing. But unfortunately not all digital vidcams have this. You would need to check your manual on that.

A final alternative would be to look for a second hand Sony Digital 8 camera which accepts analogue 8mm (and often also Hi8) tapes, and sends them over firewire as DV format. I personally bought a brand new Sony TRV-480E precisely for this purpose. Its price is definitely outside your price range, though you may find one seond hand at a lower price. Be warned, though, that not all Sony Digital 8 models have this capacity. You would need to check carefully if you took this route.
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Many thanks for your reply Ken

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Hi Ken
Many thanks for responding. I went back about 10 days manually searching the forums and just could not find anything that I was looking for. Thanks for letting me know the search function was not working properly. Believe me I tried multiple searches. I thought I may have just been using the wrong search criteria.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction too. My main use is to capture PAL and NTSC video as well as S-Video from my Digital Video Recorder which only has s-video or composite outputs.

I saw from many of the profiles I checked out that there are a lot of users who do what you mentioned. i.e. use a digital video camera as a pass through. I just checked out the wife's Sony HandyCam and it does not have the pass through function. :cry:

Again, many thanks and I will keep hunting around these forums.
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Post by Ken Berry »

What is your wife's Handycam model number -- and I assume it is digital...?
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Post by bagpiper »

Ken
It is a DCR-HC36. It has USB, Firewire and AV Out. Problem again is that neither the digital video recorder or my PAL/NTSC Video recorder has anything other than s-video or composite connections. Trust me I was thinking about that too. :) I guess I'm stuck with having to upgrade my capture device.

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Post by Ken Berry »

Yeah. Sad. My own TRV-480E has AV in/out, and that is what counts as far as VCR connections are concerned: either an S-video plus RCA composite audio connections, or else all three composite RCA connections (yellow/red/white) to a single 3.5mm AV plug. Works well.
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Post by jbarr »

Ken,

Great info!

I am building a PC to do video editing for our church, and I would like to use Ulead Video Studio 10 Plus for the editing. But how to get the video into the PC?

Our church has a nice video system (cameras, switcher, etc.) that currently outputs analog video and audio signals to a DVD Recorder via a composite feed. We currently split this feed into an old, kludgey video editor to do post-editing. I want to replace the old editor with a new PC using VS to do the post-editing, but I need to better understand the best way to get the video/audio INTO the PC. I see two choices to import the video/audio given our setup:

1. Import the DVD into VS
This would be the simplest solution. Just pop in the burned DVD, import, and edit away, but it does require waiting until the DVD is finished recording and finalizing after the service. And then there's the additional time to import. This may not be a big deal, and may be the method we use initially.

2. Capture the video directly into VS
This would be a bit more complex, but the upside is that we could capture the video/audio live, and then be able to edit it immediately after the service is over. But there may be compatibility issues. Unfortunatly, Ulead's "Compatibility list" on the Ulead site has a date of 2004/11/5--almost 2 years old. Is this list still correct and updated?

So, that said, I have some questions:

1. What do you recommend to be able to capture audio/video to a PC coming from a composite (analog) feed? I only have capturing experience with using a MiniDV camera, but in this case we don't have a MiniDV pass-through camera to use. And I would prefer to use a video capture card/device.

2. I have some experience with Hauppauge capture cards, and they work very well, but are they compatible with VS? I suppose we could capture using Hauppauge's software, import into VS, and edit, but I would prefer to capture directly using VS.

3. The USB solution you recommend seems pretty decent, but the reviews on newegg.com complain of lots of dropped frames. Do you have any recommendations for a Firewire device? Price obviously may be a limiting factor, but we also don't want to go cheap just to save a buck when spending a few extra bucks could give us good quality.

I really think that VS will be a great solution, but I also want the PC setup to be the most compatible it can be with VS.
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