Multiple windows with UVS10+ ?

[Nounours18200]

I would like to "mix" different rushes in different windows on the screen, like if I have 2 or 3 cams.

As UVS10+ has multiple tracks, I would like to know if this is possible ? (but unfortunately, I suspect that the multiple tracks cannot be used for this purposes, but just to add logos or similar things to a unique window).

Thanks for your reply,

[Ron P.]

I don't know what you mean by rushes, but you could have up to 7 (1-main, 6-overlay) different video clips on 1 screen at a time.

[Nounours18200]

By rushes, I simply meant videos, but you are totally right with what you say.

What I would like to do, is to have (let's say) 3 videos simultaneaously on the screen, each of them placed on a dedicated area of the screen.

I believe that the only way to do this, is to *not* create a main video clip (i.e leaving the main video track empty), and to create 3 overlay tracks, each of them hosting one of the 3 videoclips I want to see on the screen.

Am I right ?

The remaining question is that I have not found how to introduce a transition effect between 2 parts of a given overlay track (it seems that we can add such effects only on the main track): is there a way to do this ?

Thanks very much,
N.

[Ron P.]

The remaining question is that I have not found how to introduce a transition effect between 2 parts of a given overlay track (it seems that we can add such effects only on the main track): is there a way to do this ?

Your correct on your overlay placements, and do not need a clip in the main video track.

If you find a way to do this, please let us all know......

That was one of my main requests/complaints during beta testing of this. No transitions in overlay tracks, no cutting clips in overlay, among a few others..

So no that's not possible in VS10+. You would need it's big brother to this (MediaStudio Pro).

[Nounours18200]

You would need it's big brother to this (MediaStudio Pro).

No thank you... Ulead is not enough committed in offering a French version of this product ! I would go to Edius or Premiere Pro...

Another question to achieve what I want is: how can I totally remove the sound from an overlay track ? or if not possible, how can I remove the sound from a main track (this would allow me to remove the sound anyway).

Thanks
N.

[Ken Berry]

I have never tried this, so don't know if it would work. But have you thought of having a black matte in the main timeline throughout the whole length of your project, but making it totally transparent? Then have your various videos in their respective overlay tracks to fill their designated parts of the screen...

And if you are talking about a transition between two clips (rushes!) in one overlay track, then you would probably need to join them with a transition in a separate project, render it to a DV, then insert that new file in the relevant overlay track...

[Nounours18200]

But have you thought of having a black matte in the main timeline throughout the whole length of your project, but making it totally transparent?

I do not see exactly why to do this ? I have simply let the main track empty and it seems that UVS generates a black background: so there is no longer any pb for adding the differents videos onto the overlay tracks and getting a black , uniform background.

Why would be the added value to make the main time line transparent ? (in addition, I do not know how to do this...)

Then have your various videos in their respective overlay tracks to fill their designated parts of the screen...

yes, it is the approach that I have chosen.

And if you are talking about a transition between two clips (rushes!) in one overlay track, then you would probably need to join them with a transition in a separate project, render it to a DV, then insert that new file in the relevant overlay track...

I agree: until now, it is the only solution I see.

By the way, it seems that there is no pb to add different videos on the overlay tracks, to define different sizes for each of them on the screen, and to remove the audio from all of them except one: so this allows us to have multiple windows on the scren with only the audio of the "main track" (that I have moved to the overlay track n¢X 1).

I have not completely encoded the video because UVS is already busy with another task, but it seems it is ok.

If it runs, this allows us to make more professional looking videos (at least compared with what I did previously with UVS 9).

[Ken Berry]

As I said, I have never tried what I suggested. I thus was not aware that you could load things into the overlay tracks but leave the main track empty, much less that VS would automatically add a black background to the main track. Thanks for the information -- I will store that away for future use!

[Nounours18200]

Well, the ergonomy is not good at all because UVS does not allow to manage the audio level independently from an overlay track to another ! it looks like these multiple overlay tracks feature has been implemented too quickly...

But there is a way to achieve the goal: can some of you tell me how we can completely remove the sound from a video, using WirtualDub for example ? as fas as I see, UVS does not allow a total removal of the sound...

Then, it will be possible to do multiple videos in a screen...

Thanks

[Black Lab]

But there is a way to achieve the goal: can some of you tell me how we can completely remove the sound from a video, using WirtualDub for example ? as fas as I see, UVS does not allow a total removal of the sound...

All the video tracks have the ability to mute the audio. On the Edit tab of each video track you will find the Mute button (speaker icon with X over it). You can also choose Split Audio (right click on a clip) which puts the audio in a separate track where you can delete it. Essentially you are doing the same thing.

[Nounours18200]

Et Voilà !!

It runs perfectly : 3 videos having different sizes on the screen, with only one audio track (the one I have choosen), and no pb in the way UVS10+ renders the entire clip.

The only issues are:
-there is no way to apply FX on the overlay tracks, so no transition for example;
-consequently, we have to define the length we want for each overlay track, and to cut the videos at this length prior to save the complete VSP project.

but since most of the time there is 1 primary overlay track for which we keep the audio, it is a usable way to have multiple videos on the screen, even if of course it is not as flexible as a professional software.

interesting new feature !

Tks
N.

[Black Lab]

There are no transitions for the overlay tracks, but you can fade in/out the clips.

Your alternative is to do an intermediate render. Put the clips from the overlay track into the main video track of a new project. Put in your transitions and save that as a new vsp project (you could also render it to a new video file). Now open your original project and place that newly saved vsp project in your overlay track (via Insert Media Files Into Timeline).

[Nounours18200]

There are no transitions for the overlay tracks, but you can fade in/out the clips.

How can you do that on an overlay track ???

Your alternative is to do an intermediate render. Put the clips from the overlay track into the main video track of a new project. Put in your transitions and save that as a new vsp project (you could also render it to a new video file). Now open your original project and place that newly saved vsp project in your overlay track (via Insert Media Files Into Timeline).

True : this is what I used to do.

But I do not manage to apply the fade in/out filter FX on a overlay track ...

[Black Lab]

With your clip in the Overlay track, click on the Attribute tab. Underneath the Direction/Style, Enter/Exit boxes you see four buttons that look like graduated level lines. Those are your fade in/out, rotate in/out buttons. They are not marked as such unless you mouse over them.

[Nounours18200]

Super , Black Lab : with these options, we can improve the general look of our videos : multitracks + basic FX....

Tks