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I am running MF4 and when I try to capture from any analogue source i.e - vcr, portable dvd player etc, to burn to DVD, I get short green horizontal lines across the screen. These lines show during capture and playback on pc or DVD player. I have looked at previous posts similar to this topic and have tried many different combinations of settings, all to no avail. I'm running a Belkin analogue converter through an IEEE 1394 card with a high speed USB port. I've had both these items checked by Belkin who say they are working Ok. I can burn from my mini dv camcorder using firewire connection ok. The converter came with videostudio 6 which also gives the same problem. Between Belkin and Ulead tech support, they have been unable to help. Unfortunately, I don't have a second pc to test on. All I wanted to do was convert some old nostalgic videos to DVD and never thought it would be such a problem. Any ideas would be much appreciated.

My Pc details are as follows:

Pentium 4, 3Ghz, Radeon 9200 Series display card, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-108
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Post by DVDDoug »

If these are commercial VHS tapes, it could be Macrovision "Copy Guard" copy protection.

If so, there are ways around it. As far as I can tell, it is OK to bypass this analog copy protection here in the USA (for personal-use copying). ...It is clearly illegal to crack the digital encryption on DVDs.
I can burn from my mini dv camcorder using firewire connection ok.
Have you tried the analog output from your camcorder, through the Belkin device? (That would normally be a dumb thing to do, but it might be a useful experiment...)
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Post by Bluester »

I am only trying to copy home videos, so I don't think the 'macrovision' protection is an issue.

I have tried hooking up all sorts of inputs to the Belkin device including VCR, DVD player, digital still camera and camcorder, using AV output cables, and get the same result each time.

Cheers

Bluester

P.S. In case it helps, I also forgot to mention in first post that I have 100GB free HDD space and 512mb RAM.
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Post by Bluester »

I sent the analog converter back to Belkin who assured me its fine and sent me a still clip showing no green lines.

The device is small and has no gain control or transformer of its own.
I've tried different devices with different cables with the same result each time. I also pulled out every cable at the back of the pc that wasn't necessary and still the same.

You could be right about high gain signal or a ground loop or open ground however as a novice I have no way of checking for this. Also, I see no apparent way of adjusting black/blanking level?

It sounds like a mysterious hardware issue beyond my means but thanks for your thoughts maddrummer!
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

>>>The device is small and has no gain control or transformer of its own.

How is this device powered? If by the usb bus then I would make sure you do have the usb cable plugged into a a powered usb hub or card. That would be similiar to some of the new usb harddrives that draw the power from the usb bus and draw a descent amount of current.
Thought it may help to suggest some things from the tech side of things.
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Post by snoops »

Hi,

I'm not familiar with the Belkin hardware, and they seem to specialized in hiding infos about the converter products on their website. :roll:

Anyway, that unit is powered by USB only. So if it is a problem with the PC USB port power, you could try a self-powered USB2 hub and connect it to that instead. But I doubt this is the problem, unless you have other USB stuff on the same internal hub.

As far as ground loops are concerned, also try disconnecting all external audio cables, even if you normally need them for capture.

The Belkin device has no audio and relies on the sound card for audio capture. This also means your sound card and its drivers or settings may be causing the problem (assuming the Belkin unit is OK).

Belkin Drivers updated? http://www.belkin.com/support/download/ ... ng=1&mode=

There is a patch for XP SP2 USB video streaming that might help, or make it worse: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899271/en-us

Make sure to disconnect from the Internet, power off any unneeded USB devices like scanners etc., shutdown all other applications, and disable virus scanner, while testing. Also make sure the chosen USB port is not on the same internal USB hub as a port with USB1 device connected.

Just some ideas. Who knows. Maybe it'll help.
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Post by Bluester »

Thanks for the feedback. I'll give those ideas a try.

If all else fails, the sledgehammer is a definite option!

You need a sense of humour in these situations!

Super stuff that!
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