Problem cropping video,
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meansizzler
Problem cropping video,
Have artifacts in video so want to crop them out, want to crop video from 640*480 to 568*468 and then output it at "568*468", trouble is video gets outputted at 640*480 not 568*468, so I go into the WMV compression options and change output size to 568*468, but then the cropping size changes, video no longer is cropped from 640*480, but from 568*468..., any way to sort this out?, with windows media encoder, which is free by the way, it is simple to crop with, just select output resolution of 568*468 , and resolution you want to crop from which is 640*480, and then the amount you want to crop, in my case it is, 34 left, 38 right, 12 bottom , so to 568*468 , simple as that..., why is it so complicated with this program?...can't I crop the video as I import it?, just as I can clip it as I import it?..., what you need is an option to select which resolution you want to crop from not just use the output resolution...
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meansizzler
that defeats the whole purpose of paying $200 for the software in the first place, if it can't do what a free piece of software does, i only use this software to clip the video and merge them together, i can do that for free in windows movies maker, just cannot output uncompressed in that, if I could i would use that, also if I output uncompressed in this software it takes the same time to render the footage uncompressed than it does to render it comrpessed to WMV so what's the point?, that I don't get if the video source is already uncompressed why does it take so long to render it, it should fly through it and just take it's time to merge the clips..., also I would be getting another 80GB of uncompressed footage as the source files are 80GB themselves...Gorf wrote:Output it at 568x468 uncompressed, then encode that externally using the Microsoft front-end for WME.
Another note, the preview windows when cropping is TINY!!, how are you suppose to see what you are cropping,also when previewing video it is so slow, tried making it faster but no luck, VEGAS is plays the vidoe in real time, but this plays it with dropped frames and jerky....
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meansizzler
Crop filter?..I search in hlep for Crop, and it only comes up with cropping when saving video, also it does not say how to trim, it tells you how to mark in and out which I can do but where is the trim button?..also how do oyu fix the vidoe preview?, I mean it is jsut awful, so slow and buggy...sjj1805 wrote:Have you tried dropping the crop filter onto the clip and adjusting the crop area?
Price isn't relevant for a product which comes in a "Try before you buy" flavour. If you spent $200 without first checking that it does what you need it to do, then that says more about you than it does the software.meansizzler wrote:that defeats the whole purpose of paying $200 for the software in the first place, if it can't do what a free piece of software doesGorf wrote:Output it at 568x468 uncompressed, then encode that externally using the Microsoft front-end for WME.
The implementation of Windows Media Encoding in MSP is poor - the front-end appears to have been added without being tested to destruction (it doesn't save custom profiles, for example). Apart from that, the entire encoding technology is outside of MSP - as it is with DivX etc. It's normal to do that, so you shouldn't be too bothered by it. Even the fact that it's not been done very well in MSP isn't really a reason to berate them too much. There's an easy workaround that overcomes the problem, and by not fretting about it, it's one of the ways Ulead are able to keep clear of adding a zero to that $200.
MSP's a pretty big program to do something so simple. The phrase we use here is "Using a hammer to crack a nut". I'm not surprised that WMM can't output uncompressed, but I am surprised that it can't do a better job of WMV output than MSP. I'm not familiar with WMM's cropping ability, but what's to stop you doing it there and outputting to WMV direct?meansizzler wrote:i only use this software to clip the video and merge them together, i can do that for free in windows movies maker, just cannot output uncompressed in that...
Perhaps you should have spent the $200 on a bigger hard drive.meansizzler wrote:...also I would be getting another 80GB of uncompressed footage as the source files are 80GB themselves...
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meansizzler
I have enough HD space, but why use more if it is not needed, here is what I am saying, say if I have 6GB uncompressed footage "YUY2 AVI", I load it into MSP, do my clipping, and scene merging, and then save it back as Uncompressed AVI so I can encode in windows media encoder, but it will take 10 minutes to save/render the footage.., and if save it as compressed WMV 568*468 it will take 10 minutes also to compress it...so you can see what I am saying it takes the same time to render uncompressed as it does compressed in the first place, so I will be wasting time which could be sued doing something else, why it takes so long rendering it uncompressed is beyond me, but I shouldn't have ot do it, should be able to do it compressed straight away as it defeats the whole point of buying the software in the first place maybe if they Fix the clipping resolution then I can just output it straight to compressed WMV..anyway off to try out Adobe Premiere, already tried Vegas at that does not handle YUY2 AVI files...maybe microsoft should come out with a new version of Movie maker with the power of Windows Media Encoder, if they do they would put a big dent into the video editing software market...Gorf wrote:]
Perhaps you should have spent the $200 on a bigger hard drive.
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meansizzler
looks to simple, dragging a rectangle over an area to crop, I want to crop by pixels, eg, 34 left, 38 right, 12 bottom, also if I crop a 640*480 source I don't want the crop I end up with to be resized back to 640*480, that's what I hate alot about these video editting apps, I do not want a crop resized, if I crop a 640*480 video down to *568*468* I want the cropped to stay at that resolution, but so far seen no way to specify that in the program..., resizing a corpped video back to the source files resolution, is just zooming into it which reduces the quality of it...
so find me a program which I can do what is mentioned above?..

