very long "create video" times / vs10

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:53 pm

about 4 hours ago i pressed create video with the previous settings of the vob files, mpeg2 25f pal etc..

the program is peaking at 99% cpu but the file has not been written yet, its been 4 hours, should i just quit the program or let it run through the night ?

if this is a bug is there a workaround ?

thanks.

GuyL · Post by **GuyL** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:57 pm

Please fill in your system specs as it helps get an understanding of your setup before we answer.

Is this the first time you create a file? What are you project settings, clips and create file settings?

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:03 pm

windows xp sp2
1gb ram
200gb drive
ati 9000 pro.

so far for system specs, in the project i have edited 7 vobfiles from my dvd's (home made video converted to dvd) and several .mpeg files from my sony 5mp camera.

yes this is a first time, last time i cancelled the process because it took 3 hours, but now i decided to let it go all night. the clips are just cut vob/mpeg files. anything else you would need to know ?

GuyL · Post by **GuyL** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:34 pm

How big are these files that your are pulling from the DVDs?

DVDDoug · Post by **DVDDoug** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:00 pm

You left-out a couple of important things. How long is the program (playing time)? How big are the files (MB)? What's your CPU speed?

It should take something in the ballpark of the playing-time to re-code. I wouldn't panic if it took 3 hours to re-code a 90 minute program.

Or, there could be something "wrong" with some of your source files. I've had lots of trouble with MPEGs, especially edited MPEGs*. (They don't always cause trouble, and some people never have trouble with MPEGs.)

If it really locks-up (or crashes) and fails to complete, or if you get "lip-sync" problems, you may have better luck with a special purpose MPEG editor. I hate to recommend that you spend more money, but since I started using Womble, all of my MPEG problems are gone! (But, I don't generally edit VOBs.) When you have a finished, good, MPEG-2 "movie" you can use Video Studio to author and burn the DVD.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:01 pm

Warpy,
If your CPU speed is 2.5 - 3 GHz and your video files are DVD compliant, as it seems they must be, then 4 hours is way too long to create a 1-hour Mpeg2 file. Have a look at the procedure described here http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=27 and double check that the properties of the source files match the property setting that you are using when you Create Video File.

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:38 am

GuyL wrote:How big are these files that your are pulling from the DVDs?

8-9 GB in total. well its been 12 hours so far.

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:40 am

DVDDoug wrote:You left-out a couple of important things. How long is the program (playing time)? How big are the files (MB)? What's your CPU speed?

It should take something in the ballpark of the playing-time to re-code. I wouldn't panic if it took 3 hours to re-code a 90 minute program.

Or, there could be something "wrong" with some of your source files. I've had lots of trouble with MPEGs, especially edited MPEGs*. (They don't always cause trouble, and some people never have trouble with MPEGs.)

If it really locks-up (or crashes) and fails to complete, or if you get "lip-sync" problems, you may have better luck with a special purpose MPEG editor. I hate to recommend that you spend more money, but since I started using Womble, all of my MPEG problems are gone! (But, I don't generally edit VOBs.) When you have a finished, good, MPEG-2 "movie" you can use Video Studio to author and burn the DVD.

program playing time is around 9 hours, edited time is 11 minutes.
all files seemed to load fine into videoStudio, no problems there.
like i said its been encoding for 12 hours so far.

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:42 am

jchunter wrote:Warpy,
If your CPU speed is 2.5 - 3 GHz and your video files are DVD compliant, as it seems they must be, then 4 hours is way too long to create a 1-hour Mpeg2 file. Have a look at the procedure described here http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=27 and double check that the properties of the source files match the property setting that you are using when you Create Video File.

amd 2100, is a 1700mhz cpu.
i did use the option that uses the setting of the original files.
will check that link you gave me and report back.

thanks everyone.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:04 am

Warpy,
You are putting way too much video into a single Video File. One DVD will hold 1 hour of good quality video (8Mbps) and about 2 hours of medium quality (e.g., VCR) video @ 4-5Mbps bitrate. You might double that for dual layer DVD. You should split your project into about 9 smaller projects and make 9 video files.

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:00 am

jchunter wrote:Warpy,
You are putting way too much video into a single Video File. One DVD will hold 1 hour of good quality video (8Mbps) and about 2 hours of medium quality (e.g., VCR) video @ 4-5Mbps bitrate. You might double that for dual layer DVD. You should split your project into about 9 smaller projects and make 9 video files.

thanks for the info, but no i am not, the original dvds are 8 hours. the cut out version is ONLY 11 minutes

i am going to encode smaller sections and then encode the smaller files though.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:53 am

Hi warpy

You say file size about 9 Gb
A run time of about 9 hours
That works out at 1 Gb per hour.
A standard quality dvd is about 4 Gb per hour. This leads me to think of the disc properties.
I am expecting a small frame size and low bit rate.

If they are non-standard, vs will have problems rendering.

Right click a clip in the timeline and select properties.

What are they?

When you Share-Create Video File select ‘same as first clip’ (If you cannot select this option then the files are non-standard.)
This will use the properties of the clip to create a new file.
What option did you choose?

Rendering times depend on many conditions.

Creating a file using the ‘same as’ properties should be relatively quick.
Changing the properties, bit rate/frame size etc will drastically increase render times.
If the file project contains a lot of effects and transitions then render time increases

I would think 1700mhz is a little slow and would be happy with 3 to 4 times the run time for what I class as a normal render.
(a slide show containing images/effects/audio) not too fancy takes my system 2.25 times the run time to render a standard template.)( AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500) not that fast.

So what are your video file properties.?

Trevor

PS you can add your PC spec’ to your profile, then select System tab to view.

warpy · Post by **warpy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:29 pm

hey trevor, thanks for the long long post. i actually identified the problem.
using same as actually gave pal 25frames etc, which cause the program to lock down. due to a few files with different formats, if i mix n match its better to choose ntsc dvd although after a few times when that failed too, i finally struck gold with ntsc mpeg2 option.

so that was the workaround i was looking for. thanks to everyone who replied here.