Video won't fit on DVD disk

[Mike Warren]

I just finished editing a 105 minute video on Studio 10. At the bottom of "Burn DVD" window is a horizontal bar that is mostly green and a little yellow and red at its far end. I assume the green means video will fit on DVD disk, the yellow maybe, and the red... that it won't fit at all. Is this correct?

Since my video is in the red, how can I fit it on just one DVD disk without compromising its quality? Is this possible?

[TDK1044]

If you're audio selection is LPCM, change it to Dolby 5.1. This will free up space and keep your audio quality high.

[Black Lab]

What bit rate did you use? If you used 8,000, lowering it to 7,000 will not compromise quality.

[Terry Stetler]

If all else fails 'burn' the DVD compilation to a folder and use DVD-Shrink to fit it on a burnable DVD.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video ... shrink.cfm

[tommytucker]

Wow...great suggestion..I had given up on trying to work a 110 min VHS conversion onto a DVD R. I will try using DVD Shrink for this.

[THoff]

For material that came from VHS, a bitrate of 5000 Kbps is more than enough, and in combination with AC3 audio will allow the video to fit on a single-layer disk.

Encoding it to DVD format and then re-encoding it to a lower bitrate with DVD Shrink will give you slightly worse quality than encoding straight to the required target bitrate.

[Mike Warren]

Thanks for the helpful input. I'm computer illiterate so I understand little about much said here. In trying to burn 105 minutes to DVD disk a window says bit rate is 7000. Audio is Dolby. But where do I find this DVD Shrink you speak of? Is it in Studio 10+? Does shrinking video lessen its overall quality? And lastly, how do I change the bit rate?

PS Thanks for good tip on removing color filter from yellow in Studio's title palett. Your forum is a Godsend.

Mike

[Terry Stetler]

The link in my post is a page where you can download DVD-Shrink, whice is a freeware DVD tool. The quality loss will be minimal.

That said THoff is correct: if you open the MPEG options and reduce the bitrate to ~5000 kbps & crank the quality slider up to 80-85 (to minimize quality losses) it should fit at the expense of a longer render time. Using Dolby (AC3) audio at 160-224 kbps is also advisable.

[THoff]

I'm currently putting seven VHS tapes onto a single-layer DVD for a friend of mine. These are tapes they shot to document the public construction projects they work on. The duration of the videos range from 8 minutes to just under 80 minutes. In total, there are about 2 1/2 hours of video.

I'm encoding the video at Half D1 resolution (352x480 for NTSC) and a bitrate of 3800 Kbps with AC-3 audio at 160Kbps. Given the nature of the source material, it will be more than sufficient, and is essentially indistinguishable from VHS tape quality.

Encoding it at a higher resolution or higher bitrate offers no benefit for something that is a straight transfer from VHS. If you were to add titles or transitions and want those to be rendered at full DVD quality it would be a different story.

[Patate]

Sorry for this newbie question, but where can I change those settings? Before capture or after? I'm using edition 9SE.
Thanks

[Terry Stetler]

After. You should avoid editing MPEG's if at all possible. Its best use is as a distribution format: DVD's etc.

Two ways to change your MPEG export options;

In the Project Properties click the 'Edit' button.

That or in 'Share/Create Disc' you can click the gear shaped button. Here you'll find a 'Change MPEG settings' button at the bottom/left. In its menu select 'Customize'.

The advantage to the latter is that it lets you select Dolby Digital audio, which gives high quality at lower bitrates.

[Patate]

Thanks Terry
Another newbie question.
I digitalize a VHS with DVDSpressDX2.
I use VideoStudio 9SE to remove pubs and the size of the resulting video is much bigger than the one digitalized. Why???
What's the best way to remove pubs from the movie?

[heinz-oz]

What format do you digitize to and what are your project settings when editing and which format are you rendering to?

[Terry Stetler]

Sounds like the stream properties of the project don't exactly match the source. You can get the properties of the clip by selecting Properties from its context menu.

Most times people get the video bitrate close but are too high on the audio bitrate or set the wrong stream type; setting CBR in the project with VBR sources really swell the exported file size.

Setting the wrong audio compression type is also a no-no; LPCM will really mess up the file size if the source audio was MPEG, which is usually the case.

There is also an excellent tool for determining an MPEG files video stream properties with high precision: BitRate Viewer;

http://www.tecoltd.com/bitratev.htm

In the freebie version the panel on the left shows bitrate and the quantization (Q = compression) over time. Handy for tracking down bitrate excursions due to the sources content that would cause playback issues.

On the bottom/right is a detailed list of the MPEG settings used to create the file including frame/field, VBR/CBR and about anything else useful. Much more info aout the video stream than the Properties can reveal.

The pro version adds the GOP settings (I, B, P, open/closed etc. etc.) and many other properties useful to those of us who tweak the Advanced menu.