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i´m webdesigner and i have sold 5 great websites with a menu programmed with ulead menu applet.
so - and now my customers telefones ring up the whole day, because this menus doesn´t work in IE????????
i copy them into dreamweaver and on my machine they work best.
can anybody tell me, what i should do now???
may i complete the scripts for running at everybodies machine?
please help me
jmd
I just downloaded the trial version and in my browser it doesn't work! Having IE 6.0. So never mind. Most people on the Internet will not be able to use your menus build with this neat program.
To display the menu applet in your system, you need to install Microsoft Java Virtual Machine. You can download it from http://java-virtual-machine.net/download.html because Microsoft does not support to let user download MS Java VM anymore.
Microsoft includes MS Java VM in Windows XP or earlier, but removes it in Windows XP SP1 and SP2. So if your Windows is not upgraded from the original Windows XP and is an fresh install of Windows XP SP1 or SP2, you will not have MS Java VM installed in your Windows XP so Menu.Applet will not work.
Then launch Internet Explorer and go to Tools =>> Internet Options =>> Security =>> Custom Level in the Security level for this zone area, then make sure the settings are as follows:
Microsoft VM
Java permission =>> make sure that you do not set to "Disable Java Script"
Scripting of Java applets =>> set to "Enable"
Hope this helps.
H.T.
Ted (H.T.)
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Jean-Pierre,
Better look for a solution from somebody else. Ulead is not capable or even willed to fix that problem. I am trying for four months now to get that problem fixed or my money refunded. They do not even respond.
I reported them to the Better Business Bureau here in the US who is taking care of cases like this.
In my opinion it is pure fraud that the sell this crap very well knowing that it is not compatible with industry standards (the know it !!!). Not refunding the money is the other fact that makes me believe that they really want to betray their customers with this "product".
No, unfortunately I do not know about a similar product - that's why I'm still messing around with it... Even though I doubt that they are capable of fixing it.
I agree that in the past they had great products. The menu.applet an animation applets look like pure fraud to me though. I doubt that I will invest any money in Ulead products again - I simply do not like companies "stealing" my money.
I think it might work for your Menu.Applet for they use the same technique....
Just a thought.
Regards,
H.T.
Ted (H.T.)
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Thanks for your input in this discussion. I want to bring the discussion back to a lower level becasue I'm missing the point right now.
My question is:
Is The Ulead Apllet applicable in a way that every IE user can view my menu on the internet? Wthout them having to update their machines with software, change settings etc. In my view a visitor of my site will immediatly go to another site when my pages are not visible. They will not bother.
No, nobody with a fresh MS Windows or any Linux installation will be able to see the animations. The animations requre Microsoft's Java Virtual Machine which was part of earlier Windows versions. After MS was foreced (anti trust story...) to take their Java Virtual Machine out of their distributions, there was no supported MS JVM available any more and everybody did exactly what they were supposed to do. They downloaded SUN's Java engine and were fine with the change because "everythin" was working as it should..... Except for some companies who built their product based on the not really standard MS Java engine. Ulead was/is one of them - they never were able/willed/attempted... to fix this problem by making their software working with the industry standard (SUN Java).
So, users with older Windows installations will have the MS Java Engine installed and will see the animation applets but nobody else in the world will... That sucks? YES!
The reason that I'm so upset is that this problem is very well know at Ulead and they simply decide a.) not to develop a solution for this b.) continue with - in my opinion - the fraud with selling the software without any notice to their customers c.) they refuse to give a refund for that crap.
In case you still want to buy a licence - let me know, I have one for sale
randazzo wrote:Hello H.T. Chien,
..Is The Ulead Apllet applicable in a way that every IE user can view my menu on the internet? Wthout them having to update their machines with software, change settings etc. In my view a visitor of my site will immediatly go to another site when my pages are not visible. They will not bother.
Ulead is one of hundreds of software companies brought down to their proverbial knees by losing Java. If you must blame someone, then blame Microsoft, who has been at odds with Sun, and for that matter every other company in the World. They simply want everything their way, and have been going head to head with the Java language from day one, even tried to buy the rights to kill the software. Just as they have with Linux, Intel, and a countless host of other companies.
As of Service Pack 2 there is no longer a remedy for this situation, for the most part Java is dead, unless a miracle occurs at the twelfth hour, another Microsoft Kill!
Ulead and other companies can do nothing but stand by and watch, in hopes they can pick up the pieces and salvage their reputations. As usual we are the losers!!
New software will eventually find its way to the market, Microsoft’s desire to dominate the Internet through XTML will not stop!!
Guess what, “There is not a Damned thing we can do about it.” An old programmer.
Hi,
I kind of disagree - Java (the original industry standard which was always there and provided by SUN) still exists and is still (pretty much) downward compatible. If these hundreds of companies had followed the de-facto industry standard, there would be no problem at all.
Even though MS is very often the "bad guy" and it probably is not even a bad thing that they got their hands out of Java now, this time it is simply anti-trust laws forcing MS to get out of the Java business. Simply to protect the industry standard set by SUN.
Why can't Ulead and the other companies do nothing but stand by??? I do not understand that part. It should be at least their responsibility to stop selling a non-working product instead of - KNOWINGLY! continue marketing and not supporting that crap. For me that is close to fraud (and actually I contacted the Better Business Bureau here in the U.S. in regards to that business practice).
If you look at it from a technical standpoint, these applets never worked with something else than MS Java VM - pretty poor approach for a web development tool, don't you agree. And again, this incompatability with "the rest of the world" is not being mentioned anywhere in Uleads misleading product presentations.
How can a company sell a product knowing that it will not work with industry standards. not even mention this anywhere and then simply do not support it? Talking about "salvaging reputation" is a little bit rediculous, don't you think so? Even if there was "no way", and you as a developer know that there was a way if there was a will, the minimum I expect from a trustworthy company is that they stop making money out of a piece of code crap and offer their customers who bought it under the impression that it was a working tool a refund.
I do not want to start a discussion about XTML - this is about Java and the quality and usability of a product that is sold and not supported by Ulead.
Tom
keenart wrote:Whoa is US!
Ulead is one of hundreds of software companies brought down to their proverbial knees by losing Java. If you must blame someone, then blame Microsoft, who has been at odds with Sun, and for that matter every other company in the World. They simply want everything their way, and have been going head to head with the Java language from day one, even tried to buy the rights to kill the software. Just as they have with Linux, Intel, and a countless host of other companies.
As of Service Pack 2 there is no longer a remedy for this situation, for the most part Java is dead, unless a miracle occurs at the twelfth hour, another Microsoft Kill!
Ulead and other companies can do nothing but stand by and watch, in hopes they can pick up the pieces and salvage their reputations. As usual we are the losers!!
New software will eventually find its way to the market, Microsoft’s desire to dominate the Internet through XTML will not stop!!
Guess what, “There is not a Damned thing we can do about it.” An old programmer.
Microsoft actually has a great deal to do with what went on between Sun and Microsoft, other Companies in the past. I am not looking for someone to “BASH” just giving you the facts. You can not appreciate the full value of what I say unless you completely understand the Microsoft “Strategy.” “Hire them, Clone them, Kill them, and then see it in action from my perspective.” The Industry standards belong to Microsoft, do you really believe you could stand up to MS as a small company!?!
MS doesn’t have to care about anyone but themselves, as they are the TOP DOG. Ulead on the other hand has to make sacrifices to stay alive! It is the same trend that many other companies have had to follow in the Past. Some survived, most failed and collapsed to the wayside, with few mourners in tow. I know everyone wants to take it out on someone, especially when they are so seriously affected. Do well to remember, survival is first in this Industry, so we are going to come second, otherwise there won’t be a Ulead tomorrow. More significantly, tomorrow Ulead may become that “perfect” software package we love so much.
I do agree that a Company should always stand behind its product, which in past has always been an Industry Norm. Times are rapidly changing. I can tell you from experience, the time and money invested in paying salaries is not going to be wasted on a “Recall,” just doesn’t happen in the software Industry. “You buy the Disc policy it’s yours,” was started by software companies because of pirating.
You buy a horse at auction; you take the risk of getting a sick animal! Life!!
I have weathered crappy software for 30 years, that I didn't write, and in all of that time, I either make it work, found a work-around, or bought another product.
Besides that fact that I see MS most of the time acting as you described, the MS strategy has nothing to do with the problem we are discussing here. The discussion is not around Microsoft's way of doing business (I think we would have very similar opinions in that regards) but about a company selling (again: KNOWINGLY!) that their product will not work.
The industry standard was before MS created their own Java VM and still is now SUN Java - no matter how you look at it, this is the fact. It would have probably changed by now if MS continued distributing their incompatible Java version but this did not happen because MS is not allowed to distribute their VM any more.
I have no intention to "take it out" on anybody and I am not "seriously affected" - actually I could not care less if the tool was working or not.
The point that Ulead needs to pay their people and to "make sacrifices" to survive is pretty stupid. 1.) They will lose customers because of their poor product quality (of some products, not all) 2.) They will lose their reputatiuon of being a company that provides good support for good products 3.) They may get sued for fraud (because the business practice you describe is exactly that..) and lose even more money.
So, you suggest that fraud is the right approach to keep getting money in to pay salaries? Wow...
Let me tell you from my experience (>20 years in the IT business as developer and manager) that this way is the best way to ruin a company.
Again, it is not about that the product would be of any importance for me, there are many ways to achieve the same effects (even though I must admit that I really like the idea and the way that idea was built into a product). It is about knwoingly selling something which does not work, then not even admitting that there is a known problem with it and on top of it not even trying to fix it....
About SUN and Java, a serious sore point, a thorn in Microsoft’s side for countless years, as the CEO is one of the few who have tried to Buck Microsoft, and that is one reason Java was written. Take some of the wind out of their sail and provide another way to interface. Just drove Microsoft crazy, they have tried everything, so turning this back on SUN does not work for me.
First of all, we do not know Ulead Knowingly perpetrated a Fraudulent Act against its customers in an attempt to reap some form of gain. HIGHLY unlikely!! Despite your belief, their Reputation is of great importance to them, you should understand the Taiwanese mentality better. As I know the consumer all too well, I can tell you they will go for the Wal-Mart cheap, before they will go for quality!!
X Company writes a program two years ago, and has everything working great for Distribution, then releases the software. Microsoft comes along and decides not to support a feature that is used in X Company’s software, no matter the reason. The feature used can not be corrected with a simple patch or Update; it will require a major software rewrite, an Upgrade.
That company does Billions of dollars on just one product per year. Before Microsoft began putting pressure on the Industry to Upgrade Annually, software was released every 2 or 3 years. Some software was flawless and never needed a patch. Business practices changed, it became necessary to keep up with the unlimited multitude of changes constantly introduced by Microsoft, makes Mr Hughes look like a toddler. This meant we had to put out a product in half the time, and then in half the time the next year, until we were introducing a program that was written, tested, and ready for market in 9 months or less. We had over 300 major bugs that would have killed anything that came in contact with our software. We had exactly two months to clean-up our product, as it would be released. The company stood to loose almost ½ a billion dollars if we didn’t meet the deadline. It was decided we would put out the software on time, and in the meantime write a patch and hope all would be well. The first patch, ever written for our software. It eventually cost the company 100,000 jobs, because the expense was to high.
The secondary reason for this paranoia, Microsoft was to introduce more changes that could have taken our software down. Later it did, the next Version of our software had to be rewritten from ground up, not because we wanted to, but because we were forced to, a complete restructure of code, an additional 200 programmers. Imagine the cost!! Our software sold for many hundreds of dollars, imagine only having to pay $50 for Ulead.
I understand you are rally miffed, and you are going to draw your conclusions, not matter what is said, but honestly, IT manager or not, you have no idea of the complexity that hovers over software companies, the economics, the politics, and the constant threat of corporate raiders. From the manner in which you speak, you can not image, you just can not image, unless having worked in that environment, what really transpires, include American Companies as well.
Ulead is actually bending over backward to make their product the most innovative and feature rich in the industry. All companies have growing pains and so is Ulead, strapped for cash just like everyone else, why do you think they created this Forum. Until they can weather this economic catastrophe changes might come slow for now.
After having spent the past 30 years married to Microsoft’s OS, and having lost countless thousands of hours and dollars, frustrated by computer glitches, I still use the product, because it does what I need.
I too speak from experience, I am now an artist in my 60’s have every graphic and paint program on the market. Know how to use each and everyone, Ulead is still my favorite, buggy or not.
I can either complain or make it better, my choice is the latter.
