more clips on a dvd / videostudio

[surfer]

What i been asking myself for quit a while is the following:

I see dvd's made from television or another source (isn't that importend) that contains for 4 movies with a menu. THese movies last for 40 minutes and are from a perfect quality, no blocking or artefarts etc. Almost dvd quality (at least i don't see to much difference).
So 4 times 40 minutes is: 160 minutes on a dvd.

When i read on the internet that you can put 120 minutes with good quality on a dvd but this is 40 minutes more.

I know that one can play with the BPS but that will reduce the quality to vhs when you go to about 3000 kb/s. That isn't the quality that i see most of the time, that is much better.

The question is: how can i manage 4 movies from that quality with videostudio 10 plus, i mean what template i use or must i make?

Maybe it is best to make a dvd from that movies with videostudio (about 6-7-8 gb) and then load the dvd in dvdshrink or something other compress program?

Does anybody has a clue how to perform this?

[DVDDoug]

Here's a link to a handy Bitrate Calculator.

know that one can play with the BPS but that will reduce the quality to vhs when you go to about 3000 kb/s. That isn't the quality that i see most of the time, that is much better.

If the quality of the broadcast was poor to begin with, you might be right. But, you won't get commercial DVD quality at 3000, and I'll bet you can see the difference with a good source file. To me, 90 minutes is about right for a single-sided DVD. When I've pushed it past 2 hours I've noticed the loss of quality.

You can't directly compare MPEG and VHS. The weaknesses and limitations are different. Although you might not notice it, a "DVD quality" MPEG made from a VHS tape will be worse than the tape. You are adding the different weaknesses together. Plus, you are going through an extra analog-to-digital conversion, and an extra digital-to-analog conversion.

Maybe it is best to make a dvd from that movies with videostudio (about 6-7-8 gb) and then load the dvd in dvdshrink or something other compress program?

DVDShrink does an amazing job! But, I think you are theoretically better-off using the "correct" bitrate and encoding only once.

[surfer]

Thanks, but in the post above i mentioned that it is for my question not importend what the source is.

The question is: hoe can i put 4 movies 4x 40 minutes on a dvd with videostudio 10 with perfect quality like a dvd. I don't think i can accomplish that with playing with bps. But maybe you disagree..

[Ron P.]

Surfer,

I think DVDDoug did answer your question, however I don't think you understand how the Bitrate dictates the duration of video that can be placed on a DVD.

If you are also referring to a commercial DVD, then those discs are not burned, they are pressed discs, and use multi-pass encoding, sometimes upwards of 20 passes. That way they can get the highest quality with the lowest bitrate.

Anyway if you are wanting to put 160 minutes on a Single Layer DVD, then the bitrate will have to be around 3800 kbps. That is not DVD quality.

However what is the end goal of your product, TV, or computer? If you have a DVD player that is capable of reading DivX, you may be able to squeeze your production onto a single DVD using the DivX codec. DivX codec highly compresses the video, yet gives very good quality.

Ron P.

[surfer]

I want to use the dvd's for my dvd player in the living room not for the computer. The source are televisionserie, but the people who making thes serie's to a dvd are just people trough newsgroups.

Thatswhy i want to know how they do that with 160 minutes with that quality.

Indeed it is possbilbe that they use the divx codec. Is it possible for me to use the divx codec with videostudio?
Because this is what i want.

I have downloaded a couple of t.v. series wich i want to burn on a dvd. Also 160 minutes. I know that the bitrate is responsible for the amount that fits on a dvd but 3800 kbps is not the quality i see for those dvd's i think it is better so it is more likely that they used divx?

Or so i suggested maybe making a dvd (with videostudio) and then shrink with dvdshrink is a possibility?

[Ken Berry]

If you have VS10+, yes you can make DivX or other mpeg-4 DVDs. Of course, you must also have the DivX (or Xvid) codec on your computer to do so. VS10+ uses its own separate mpeg-4 codec (from Intervideo). VS9 would also do so, but only if you had the full, registered version of the program and had downloaded the necessary plug-ins.

BUT the big limitation here is your stand-alone DVD player in your lounge room. Only relatively recent players can read DivX DVDs. I just bought one (an LG) and it works fine. But my older player will not read such discs.

And from my understanding of DivX discs, you will not find they use a higher compression rate than 3000 kbps, but usually a much lower one...!

[JustOneOfMany]

Indeed it is possbilbe that they use the divx codec. Is it possible for me to use the divx codec with videostudio?
Because this is what i want.

I have downloaded a couple of t.v. series wich i want to burn on a dvd. Also 160 minutes. I know that the bitrate is responsible for the amount that fits on a dvd but 3800 kbps is not the quality i see for those dvd's i think it is better so it is more likely that they used divx?

Or so i suggested maybe making a dvd (with videostudio) and then shrink with dvdshrink is a possibility?

I think it would be better to use ConvertXtoDVD by VSO-software to do what you want to do. There is a trial version available. If I am allowed here is the link.

http://www.vso-software.fr/index.php?lang=en

[surfer]

Thanks all.

I have read in the mean time how the people on newsgroups put 4-5 avi's on a dvd. Different styles but is can be done with other programs then videostudio. For example diko program. He can put 6 avi files with very good quality on a dvd.

[Ron P.]

Surfer,

I just done a quick read on Diko and Diko Gold. You can use it if you desire, it is a video conversion program. I've never heard of it until now. It is one of many video conversion programs available. With these 3rd party video converters, you would use them either to convert from one format to another (like from DV to MPEG) or if it is capable of compressing beyond the MPEG-2 DVD compatible to where you can fit alot more onto a DVD or CD, then that is done after you have used VS, and outside of VS, using which ever program you have elected to use.

If you are wanting to use Diko, then I would recommend registering on their forum and learning more about how to use their application(s).

Ron P.