Remote controller of DVD player

[Pygmalion]

Hello experts!

When DVD is created with MovieFactory 4, button functions [b]on remote controller of DVD player[/b] are useless. For example when in menu, button NEXT should move to next menu, however nothing happens. Also, button PLAY should start playing from a start of DVD, however it starts playing the section that is currently selected. What is wrong?

BTW, since I have the same music for all menues, would it be possible that when menu is changed music does not start from the beginning each time?

Thanks for help, Marko

[sjj1805]

Please view:
Authoring a DVD Here I used VideoStudio but the procedure is identical.

When you move from one menu to another the audio will always start at the beginning.

[Pygmalion]

Thanks for reply.

Actually I know how to make a DVD. The problem is that it does not behave the way it should / the way I want. I have 18 chapters split into three menues with 6 thumbnails. While I use ONLY cursors keys on my DVD player remote controller, everything is fine. Using any other key on remote is a disaster. For example:

- If I push key "2" on remote, chapter "1" starts playing. So I had to remove chapter numbers in order to avoid confusion.

- If I push key "NEXT" (>>|) on remote nothing happens. I wish I could move between menues by pushing keys "PREV" (|<<) and "NEXT (>>|). This is much more practical than using cursor keys on remote to go to the |<< or >>| icon on the menu.

- If i push button "PLAY" (>) on remote I would like that all chapters from the start to the end are played. This is exactly what happens if you use cursor keys on remote to go to the > icon on the menu.

- What is the strangest thing of all is that in PREVIEW of DVD MovieFactory "NEXT" (>>) and "PREV (<<) keys work correctly - you can move between menues.

So am I doing something wrong or what I expect from MovieFactory is an illusion?

Best regards, Marko.

[Pygmalion]

On a DVD player I was testing recently, remote controller "NEXT" (>>|) and "PREV" (|<<) keys move between chapters. I wish these keys move between menues. It is interesting to note that in DVD MovieFactory Preview these keys DO move between chapters, just as I wish!

Marko

[snoops]

If I push key "NEXT" (>>|) on remote nothing happens.
in PREVIEW of DVD MovieFactory "NEXT" (>>) and "PREV (<<) keys work correctly

You're right. Just tried it. This is a bug, and the preview behaves differently than the burnt project.

- If i push button "PLAY" (>) on remote I would like that all chapters from the start to the end are played. This is exactly what happens if you use cursor keys on remote to go to the > icon on the menu.

You're wrong on this one. If a thumbnail is selected and you press PLAY on the remote, it should play that clip (or chapter). And when you use the cursor keys, that clip (or chapter) is no longer chosen after you've navigated to the play icon. So then all are played.
If this worked the way you want it, how would I play a desired clip (or chapter) on your DVD by using navigation?
On my remote, PLAY and OK is the same button.

[Pygmalion]

OK, great, we now all understand the problem. But what can I do to repair it?

Marko

[Pygmalion]

Also, is it possible that PLAY (>) button acts differently than OK button - for example that PLAY (>) button triggers playing from the start to the end.

Both things are actually important. I am doing DVD movie of my children, and their grandmothers and grandfathers will use it too. They are not technical wizards and will be confused by these things.

Marko

[snoops]

But what can I do to repair it?

You can't fix MF. Ulead needs to do that. It is the same in MF5. File a report at support to increase the chance somebody will notice.

But you can burn to a disk folder with MF before DVD, and use other software to change the menu, like the free version of MenuEdit 2.3.1 at dimadsoft.com

possible that PLAY (>) button acts differently than OK button

MF offers no editing of actions and control, and has no options for auto-actions. MF only offers an option to play the next clip or return to menu after clip has played. And to use the 1st clip as an intro before the menu. The rest is handled automatically for "dummies".

But even beginners very often want to be able to adjust some of the controls.
My favorite example is auto-play after a timeout of like 30 seconds of menu, instead of looping for eternity. I've seen older people (no names) load a DVD and sit for ages waiting for something to happen.

If MF had an "advanced" button to popup the designer interface of DVDlab for the menus, THAT would be a killer version.

[Pygmalion]

snoops:

Thank you very much for the reply. I was already testing this possibility and unloaded freeware version of MenuEdit. In this version all you can do is delete control buttons and change the actions of remote controller cursor keys. I saw no possibility to change actions of other keys. Is registered version of MenuEdit able to do the latter? If not - is there any other menu editing program that is able to do that?

Thanks, Marko.

[snoops]

I am not familiar with the options of MenuEdit.
The prev/next stuff can surely be done with PgcEdit but don't ask me for details... I have no idea, and I don't want to know. I'd rather be doing something else than going that deep into DVD program code.

[sjj1805]

I am not familiar with the options of MenuEdit.
The prev/next stuff can surely be done with PgcEdit but don't ask me for details... I have no idea, and I don't want to know. I'd rather be doing something else than going that deep into DVD program code.

Please view:
Workshop 2 and Menuedit.

[maddrummer3301]

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[snoops]

After reading maddrummer's answer, I think I know where the confusion is coming from, and my previous statement needs to be corrected.

Taking a look at title menus, with clips on more than 1 menu page...

MF does not program the prev and next remote keys to switch between menus. Only the prev/next buttons in the menu do that.

If you switch to the "Edit" view of the menu in MF, there are "prev" and "next" icons there, but these allow switching between the menus for editing purposes. They are not related to the remote keys when a DVD is played.

When you start the preview of the menu, you'll see that the prev and next keys of the remote are inactive.
Once a clip is playing, the prev and next keys become active and allow prev/next chapter.
(But MF5 gets lost and hangs if I press them again without waiting long enough. Half a minute later it may wake up, or the preview ends and I'm back in the edit view.)

[Pygmalion]

Oh gosh. I opened DVD with PGCEdit. This was quite a shock despite I was programming in more than half a dozen programming languages. But partly because Ulead programming is a mess! For a simple DVD they used almost all registers and created 5 times more PGCs than video clips with 50 instructions each?! Ulead definitely discourages fine tuning of finished DVD!

OK, after a hour or two I finally realised what's what. PGCEdit enables easy change of "next chapter" key (>>|) and "previous chapter" key (|<<) actions, but not also "play" (>) actions. Is there any other menu editor that enables that?

Marko

[Pygmalion]

[quote="maddrummer3301"]
The Next/Previous buttons on my panasonic remote does [b]NOT[/b] cycle through Menu Pages. Even on any of my commercial dvds.
When on the Main Menu of a commercial dvd if I hit the Next/Previous buttons on the remote an error is displayed on the screen, meaning "Can't do that".
.[/quote]

maddrummer,

I think it is confusing for a user to have a menu with (>>|) button, which moves between menus, and (>>|) key on the remote player acts differently (moves between chapters). Then buttons should be changed or something. The same is trute for (>) button, which plays all chapters and (>) key that has the same effect as (OK) key.