Audio volume control not working

[wipi]

I can't get around the following problem in VS 10:

Whenever I adjust the "rubber band" control (the red line) in an audio clip, it has absolutely no effect on the volume played. The overall volume control (the green line) however works fine.

I've tried this on several different projects and audio files - no change.

Any ideas how this can be resolved?

Thanks for feedback, regards
Willy

[GuyL]

Are you previewing the results in project mode? Does it work if you render it to a file?

[wipi]

Good question:
Things work if I choose to send the project to the screen or to generate the output file.
However, when I review the clip in the preview mode, the audio control has no effect.

Looks more like a bug than a feature, no?
Definitely cumbersome to work with.

[GuyL]

If you preview the clip it will be in its original state. You have to preview the project to see any changes. You can preview a section of the project using markers and pressing shift when playing.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

To select ‘Project Playback’
Do one of the following

Click the word ‘Project’ adjacent to the ‘Play Button’

The word Project will change to a blue colour indicating project playback.

Click the White Time Rule at the top of the timelines. This will position the curser, this position is where the Project playback will start.

In project playback all timelines are played together.

In clip playback the individual clip/title/transitions etc are played on there own.

Trevor

[GuyL]

Thanks, Trevor. I guess I should have explained how too.

[wipi]

Guy, Trevor,
thanks a lot for the advice. I notice in fact that there is a difference between clip play and project play, but also "project playback" to screen.


The latter option works fine (regarding the audio volume control), but you have to run the whole project, so it's not suitable for quick check of a sequence.

Project play preview renders sound control correctly. However, the thing that threw me off is that an FX transition overruns the sound control (e.g. a lead-in); that is not the case when you do a project playback.

And finally, as you indicate, clip play preview disregards audio control all together.

Sounds complicated? It is and I am not sure it all works as designed.

Regards

[GuyL]

Guy, Trevor,
thanks a lot for the advice. I notice in fact that there is a difference between clip play and project play, but also "project playback" to screen.


The latter option works fine (regarding the audio volume control), but you have to run the whole project, so it's not suitable for quick check of a sequence.

Project play preview renders sound control correctly. However, the thing that threw me off is that an FX transition overruns the sound control (e.g. a lead-in); that is not the case when you do a project playback.

And finally, as you indicate, clip play preview disregards audio control all together.

Sounds complicated? It is and I am not sure it all works as designed.

Regards

You can play back any portion of the project. After you click "project" drag the trim handles to the start and end points you wish to preview and hold down shift when you click play. It will play only that section. If you want better quality previews then change the preferences to quality playback from instant playback. The file will be rendered before the preview is played.

[is@northcentralems.com]

I have the same issue, with the audio not changing when I rubber band it. Althought after reading this forum I have realized that I must use the project playback - however I did notice that when I want to fade out something, I lower the rubber band all the way to the bottom, but it does not completely shut off the sound, so I still hear some sound, thereby it doesn't fade out perfect all the way. I would say it fades out down to 20% or maybe even 10% but then you notice an abrupt stop at the end of the clip.

[blplhp]

wipi,

I have your solution for a quick preview of the video clip's audio adjustments without having to preview the whole project in Project Mode. This will work as long as the trial version has the control panel tab explained below.

Click on the Audio View button just above the timeline ruler. This displays the waveforms and the rubberbands of your video/audio clips. Click on a video or audio clip in your timeline to highlight it. Next, click on the Surround Sound Mixer tab in the Control Panel section of the program window. Do you see the blue Play button to the top left of the speaker location diagram? Click on this Play button and you can preview your rubber banding edits without having to go to Project mode. Click on the next clip to highlight it and then click on the Play button again to preview your audio edits.

Works every time for me.

[Black Lab]

I have the same issue, with the audio not changing when I rubber band it. Althought after reading this forum I have realized that I must use the project playback - however I did notice that when I want to fade out something, I lower the rubber band all the way to the bottom, but it does not completely shut off the sound, so I still hear some sound, thereby it doesn't fade out perfect all the way. I would say it fades out down to 20% or maybe even 10% but then you notice an abrupt stop at the end of the clip.

I have found if I have, say, a 2 second fade out then, yes, it seems to end rather abruptly rather than fading. But if I change it to a 4 second fade it sounds much better.

[blplhp]

wipi,

See my proposed solution above.

Let us know if this works for you.

[Trevor Andrew]

I have the same issue, with the audio not changing when I rubber band it. Althought after reading this forum I have realized that I must use the project playback - however I did notice that when I want to fade out something, I lower the rubber band all the way to the bottom, but it does not completely shut off the sound, so I still hear some sound, thereby it doesn't fade out perfect all the way. I would say it fades out down to 20% or maybe even 10% but then you notice an abrupt stop at the end of the clip.

Hi

I find it difficult to select the last frame using the rubber band, especially when the trim handles are in the way.
You could expand the timeline to view a single frame, Although I use the Fade in--Fade out buttons instead of the rubber banding.

This should fade to the last frame.

Set the default time in file preferences.
Or drag the start fade point to adjust.


Trevor

[Black Lab]

wipi,

I have your solution for a quick preview of the video clip's audio adjustments without having to preview the whole project in Project Mode. This will work as long as the trial version has the control panel tab explained below.

Click on the Audio View button just above the timeline ruler. This displays the waveforms and the rubberbands of your video/audio clips. Click on a video or audio clip in your timeline to highlight it. Next, click on the Surround Sound Mixer tab in the Control Panel section of the program window. Do you see the blue Play button to the top left of the speaker location diagram? Click on this Play button and you can preview your rubber banding edits without having to go to Project mode. Click on the next clip to highlight it and then click on the Play button again to preview your audio edits.

Works every time for me.

That does the same thing as clicking Project Mode then Play. Using your way is one less click but I have to move my mouse farther.

[Black Lab]

I have the same issue, with the audio not changing when I rubber band it. Althought after reading this forum I have realized that I must use the project playback - however I did notice that when I want to fade out something, I lower the rubber band all the way to the bottom, but it does not completely shut off the sound, so I still hear some sound, thereby it doesn't fade out perfect all the way. I would say it fades out down to 20% or maybe even 10% but then you notice an abrupt stop at the end of the clip.

Something else you can try. In Audio View, move the cursor to the very end of the audio clip that you want to fade out (with your clip selected click the End button located under Trim Handles). On the Attribute tab, with your clip selected, click on the Fade Out button. Now, on the Surround Sound Mixer tab you will see 3 sliding scales. The one on the left is for the volume. Slide that all the way down. That will ensure there is no volume at the end of the clip. As I stated previously, adjusting the length of the fade also improves it, IMHO.