Why it is so difficult to work with MOV files in Ulead 10.

fgenc · Post by **fgenc** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:11 pm

Hello,

My job is preparing DVD contains movie trailers. Since the best source for trailer is Apple.com, i have to work with MOV files.

Ulead 10 can not recognize MOV files with H264 codec. Ulead man says use cinepak codec. When i use cinepak code, it works. After creating DVD, the video form originally converted MOV files play faster.

Please help me.

And my main question is " Why it is so difficult to work with MOV files in Ulead 10.". I love to process al video files (include MOV) without any conversion. Is it difficult to recognize all vide format, or is it diffcult create new patches for new video formats.

Regards
Fevzi

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:08 pm

Please view:
Patch for MOV files

fgenc · Post by **fgenc** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:00 am

Thanks for the reply.

I have applied the patch after re-install Ulead10. It is not the solution. When I use MOV files with H.264 codec the result is corrupted frames. After encoding MOV files to change codec with cinepak (adviced by Ulead man) the result is the same (faster movie). Any other way to ged rid of this problem.

Regards
Fevzi

Post by **Ron P.** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:15 am

The H.264 codec seems to be a problem with VS, it does not like it at all. I done a quick search and the posts I found, all eluded to using Quicktime Pro 7, however according to the posts, it is believed that QTP 7 will only allow output to MOV format.

You could possibly try a 3rd party application to convert the video to a format that VS will allow. Once such application would be Super.

Ron P.

sood_aj · Post by **sood_aj** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:19 am

if you have quick time pro 7 then you can convert any mov file into avi file which in turn can be imported into VS10. I hope it will solve your problem.

fgenc · Post by **fgenc** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:46 am

Converting is a solution, you are right. But I belive, Ulead should solve the problem with MOV files. MOV is not uncommon video format.

Regards

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:10 am

fgenc wrote:Converting is a solution, you are right. But I belive, Ulead should solve the problem with MOV files. MOV is not uncommon video format.

Regards

Depends upon your expectations. I see VideoStudio as a piece of software primarily intended for Video Enthusiasts who want something that will take their Camcorder captures (Mostly in DV format) and allow them to edit them and place them onto DVD's.

The software developers in their wisdom have then enhanced this to encompass other video editing tasks and abilities such as capturing from other sources such as TV Cards (mostly in MPEG format).

This has then been taken a step further where video from things such as digital cameras (Mostly MOV format) has been included.

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:34 pm

While I agree with Steve on the expected use of VS by Camcorder users, I believe that Ulead should not advertise that it works with a certain format, unless they can do it correctly. It should never require that you use an external program like Super, although I am going to get a copy of that to try thanks Ron, to do what it claims it can do. MOV is a very standard format, like AVI and MPEG, and VS has always had problems with it. Heck, they would just be better off leaving that format out of their marketing materials until they can get it to work. I doubt they will lose customers for not advertising something like that. At least then you would expect to have to use an external conversion program.

But, honestly, they are no different than most of the other products in this catagory. I too have a still camera that shoots MOV files. I like to use it to create overlay/highlight clips when I am filming something on my camcorder. Makes for some neat effects. I just got used to hitting them with a conversion program before trying to use them. Good luck Fgenc.

nosnoop · Post by **nosnoop** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:27 pm

TubaDad wrote:I too have a still camera that shoots MOV files. I like to use it to create overlay/highlight clips when I am filming something on my camcorder. Makes for some neat effects. I just got used to hitting them with a conversion program before trying to use them.

Actually, VS10 has no problem handling the mov file using MJEPG from my digital camera. So it depends on the codecs being used. The best field order settings to use is "Frame based", as these MJEPG mov files are shot in progressive scan.

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:16 pm

Nosnoop, what camera do you use. My Kodak does not come in clean, although Quicktime plays the files fine. They appear to import without problems, but when I try to use them the audio seems to work fine, but the video starts and then stops immediately. So I just defaulted to converting them first. I am willing to change, if I can get it to work right, but no luck so far.

nosnoop · Post by **nosnoop** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:04 pm

TubaDad wrote:Nosnoop, what camera do you use. My Kodak does not come in clean, although Quicktime plays the files fine. They appear to import without problems, but when I try to use them the audio seems to work fine, but the video starts and then stops immediately. So I just defaulted to converting them first. I am willing to change, if I can get it to work right, but no luck so far.

TubaDad, your Kodak is probably one of the newer models using H.264 MPEG4 codecs for the mov files. They offer a much higher compression, allowing lower bit rate recording, and enable you to record much longer in the same size flash memory card. There are currently less than 20 cameras in the market using MPEG4 for videos recording. And you sacrifice ease of editing for the longer recording time.

My cameras, Konica-Minolta and Pentax, both use Motion JPEG (MJPEG) codec for the mov files. This codec is used by the majority of the digital cameras out there. Motion JPEG has no spatial compression (unlike MPEG4). With the flash memory prize so low nowadays, MJPEG is the codec I prefer.