I am going to produce a Video-DVD with the first sound track in LPCM stereo and a second sound track (the same content) in Dolby Digital Stereo (Dolby Digital 2.0). I’m not going to use any Dolby Logo. Do I need permission or a license from Dolby or can I simply do it and write on the DVD cover under sound formats: LPCM Stereo and Dolby Digital Stereo?
Wolfram
Dolby Digital License?
Dolby are very sticky about how their name is used. You do not need a license, but I suggest you do not use their name, which is a trade mark, without their express permission. You could use AC-3 Digital Stereo, as AC-3 is generic.
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Of course, there isn't an issue for personal home-use DVDs. Dolby has already collected a fee from Ulead to cover that.
I know Dolby normally collects a per-DVD royalty for commercial DVDs sold with a Dolby (AC3) soundtrack, so it might be an issue if you are selling the DVD. If you get the DVD commercially duplicated/replicated, the production house will have a Dolby license, as well as CSS and Macrovision licenses. They will charge you a per-DVD fee for each of these.
I need to re-install my Ulead programs, and when I do maybe I'll read the license agreement this time.
I've actually used the Dolby Digital logo on my personal-use DVDs.... I don't remember where I downloaded it. Don't tell Dolby, because that might be a copyright violation!
FYI- The Dolby Store sells a DVD with several "Dolby theatrical trailers" for $5.00 USD. Of course it is copyrighted, but it is not CSS copy protected!!! (I haven't actually used these in my personal-use DVDs. I just copied it to the hard drive to check if it was copy protected.)
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There is no mention of AC3 or Dolby in the EULA. I would take this to mean there are no limitations. (It does say that you cannot make porn!)
I know Dolby normally collects a per-DVD royalty for commercial DVDs sold with a Dolby (AC3) soundtrack, so it might be an issue if you are selling the DVD. If you get the DVD commercially duplicated/replicated, the production house will have a Dolby license, as well as CSS and Macrovision licenses. They will charge you a per-DVD fee for each of these.
I need to re-install my Ulead programs, and when I do maybe I'll read the license agreement this time.
I've actually used the Dolby Digital logo on my personal-use DVDs.... I don't remember where I downloaded it. Don't tell Dolby, because that might be a copyright violation!
FYI- The Dolby Store sells a DVD with several "Dolby theatrical trailers" for $5.00 USD. Of course it is copyrighted, but it is not CSS copy protected!!! (I haven't actually used these in my personal-use DVDs. I just copied it to the hard drive to check if it was copy protected.)
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There is no mention of AC3 or Dolby in the EULA. I would take this to mean there are no limitations. (It does say that you cannot make porn!)
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Vogel
Today I received ULEADS answer in German:
"Mit der Verwendung unserer Software haben Sie die uneingeschränkte Erlaubnis, kommerzielle DVDs mit Dolby Digital zu erstellen".
Translated it runs: With the use of our software (Ulead DVD PowerToos2, the German name for Ulead DVD Workshop 2) you have the unrestricted permission to produce commercial DVD's with Dolby Digital.
Wolfram
"Mit der Verwendung unserer Software haben Sie die uneingeschränkte Erlaubnis, kommerzielle DVDs mit Dolby Digital zu erstellen".
Translated it runs: With the use of our software (Ulead DVD PowerToos2, the German name for Ulead DVD Workshop 2) you have the unrestricted permission to produce commercial DVD's with Dolby Digital.
Wolfram
Yes, you can use the techniques but you cannot use the Dolby trademark to advertise that your DVD is recorded using a Dolby technique without their express permission in the form of an agreement. Even then, the way you use it strictly regulated.
See http://www.dolby.com/professional/licen ... index.html
See http://www.dolby.com/professional/licen ... index.html
Other Encoded Content
A Dolby Trademark Agreement is required to:
- Indicate with a Dolby trademark that your recorded audio content, such as TV broadcasts, games, DVDs, music, is encoded with Dolby technologies
- Use Dolby trailers at the beginning of broadcasts, games, and video programs such as DVDs.
A separate, royalty-free agreement must be signed for each technology prior to use of the corresponding Dolby trademark.
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Vogel
Hello Devil,
yes, I think you are right. ULEAD wrote, that I can use the term "Dolby Digital 2.0" on my DVD cover as a function attribute.
If Dolby gets hold of my DVD, how do they know, that it is created with licensed ULEAD software? I ask ULEAD, if they require a hint on commercial DVD's, that they are created with DVD Workshop 2.0. They say no, but it would be nice if I do so. Probably it is useful, to make a footnote for example in the DVD booklet "Created with ULEAD DVD Workshop 2.0".
Wolfram
yes, I think you are right. ULEAD wrote, that I can use the term "Dolby Digital 2.0" on my DVD cover as a function attribute.
If Dolby gets hold of my DVD, how do they know, that it is created with licensed ULEAD software? I ask ULEAD, if they require a hint on commercial DVD's, that they are created with DVD Workshop 2.0. They say no, but it would be nice if I do so. Probably it is useful, to make a footnote for example in the DVD booklet "Created with ULEAD DVD Workshop 2.0".
Wolfram
You can cite what Ulead told you to the judge when Dolby take you to court! 
As I said, you can use their technology under the Ulead licence, but you cannot use their trademark without their express permission in the form of an agreement. The reason for this is that anyone can produce a DVD with crap sound, even using the Dolby technology and, if it is advertised as being Dolby Digital, it will do their reputation no good. They therefore protect themselves by a rigid Use of Trademark agreement. If you use their trademark (and the name Dolby is registered) outside the agreed terms or without an agreement, then you may be in trouble with them, as many have already found out to their cost. Believe me, I am serious: Dolby offer no quarter to those who infringe their trademarks.
As I said, you can use their technology under the Ulead licence, but you cannot use their trademark without their express permission in the form of an agreement. The reason for this is that anyone can produce a DVD with crap sound, even using the Dolby technology and, if it is advertised as being Dolby Digital, it will do their reputation no good. They therefore protect themselves by a rigid Use of Trademark agreement. If you use their trademark (and the name Dolby is registered) outside the agreed terms or without an agreement, then you may be in trouble with them, as many have already found out to their cost. Believe me, I am serious: Dolby offer no quarter to those who infringe their trademarks.
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The reasons are all about $$$. Dolby wants to get paid, bottom line.
Personally, Ive never been impressed with Dolby products - what about Dolby NR? a way to reduce hiss in cassette tapes? I'd rather HEAR the high frequenices (was not as good as DBX either) Then there was type B
(yawn) Type C, and does anyone remember Dolby S?? At this point "noise reduction" wasnt hardly needed because CeeDees were all the vouge. (I still have a Pioneer cassette recorder with Dolby S)
I like good old fashioned Stereo myself - But until audio entered digital, "surround sound" was a joke - anyone remember Quad?
So now they can make different stuff come out discretely from multiple speakers.
This is Dolby Digital. Big woop. Dolbys got most people fooled I guess, cuz they are still in the money, yes sir.
The suggestion to use "AC-3" is probably the best, and even "5.1" isn't trademarked -- I think if you said "Digital surround 5.1" you would be safe cuz that doesnt infringe on the Dolby name.
its their Logos and name "Dolby" thats taboo to use. If I marketed my own cake mix and called it "Pillsbury" and used a fat dough boy as my logo - Id catch it. right? No difference really. lol.
If your adventureous Use dubble D trademark, Dolby name or whatever.
there are homebrew DVDs all over ebay with folks lauding these things on their homemade DVD covers, and even using above-mentioned trailers too. Maybe some WILL be caught. I doubt it.
Personally, Ive never been impressed with Dolby products - what about Dolby NR? a way to reduce hiss in cassette tapes? I'd rather HEAR the high frequenices (was not as good as DBX either) Then there was type B
(yawn) Type C, and does anyone remember Dolby S?? At this point "noise reduction" wasnt hardly needed because CeeDees were all the vouge. (I still have a Pioneer cassette recorder with Dolby S)
I like good old fashioned Stereo myself - But until audio entered digital, "surround sound" was a joke - anyone remember Quad?
So now they can make different stuff come out discretely from multiple speakers.
This is Dolby Digital. Big woop. Dolbys got most people fooled I guess, cuz they are still in the money, yes sir.
The suggestion to use "AC-3" is probably the best, and even "5.1" isn't trademarked -- I think if you said "Digital surround 5.1" you would be safe cuz that doesnt infringe on the Dolby name.
its their Logos and name "Dolby" thats taboo to use. If I marketed my own cake mix and called it "Pillsbury" and used a fat dough boy as my logo - Id catch it. right? No difference really. lol.
If your adventureous Use dubble D trademark, Dolby name or whatever.
there are homebrew DVDs all over ebay with folks lauding these things on their homemade DVD covers, and even using above-mentioned trailers too. Maybe some WILL be caught. I doubt it.