Hi Everyone!
Yes, That is the Question of the Year for me. I have tried everything but the right way I guess to Cut Items and Make them Objects, but I can not save them with NO backgrounds!
Examples are, I'm trying to cut out Cool Cars and add neon rings around them which I already know how to do, but when I want to save the custom object what happens is that the backgrounds merge with the what everbackground color i'm working with (Black)
So, Does anyone know how to do this???
How do I save Objects with NO Background???
Which FORMAT should I use to save Objects ONLY???
Export them to my Website as Jpeg images???
Frank
QUESTION: How do I save Objects with NO Background???
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keenart
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frank2005
I followed your advise.
Hey Keenart
I followed your advise and did as you recommended but the picture goes faded and in black in white.
You know I just did that right now and didn't work.
It pops up saying that the file format that you chose (GIF) does not support object saving! and If I continue the object will be merged.
Any more suggestions? I still need to do these tasks.
I'm using PhotoImpact 10
Thank you
Frank
I followed your advise and did as you recommended but the picture goes faded and in black in white.
You know I just did that right now and didn't work.
It pops up saying that the file format that you chose (GIF) does not support object saving! and If I continue the object will be merged.
Any more suggestions? I still need to do these tasks.
I'm using PhotoImpact 10
Thank you
Frank
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heinz-oz
So, what's wrong with merging an object with a transparent background? That's the way it's done. You cannot save just an object, even in ufo format the background object is still there and saved with the other objects. Even if it's transparent, saving that in jpg would give you a colored background. Saving in gif format, the background is transparent and will show the underlying page when placed on a web page for example.
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keenart
frank2005
Yes, just as heinz-oz indicates, the image must merge, however the document will still have a transparent background.
Try using two documents, one transparent document, and the other to work on your autos. Make all of the changes to the document containing the images of the auto and then cut the object from the document and paste into the transparent document.
Save your image in the PNG format if you are using True Color and GIF in 256 colors.
Yes, just as heinz-oz indicates, the image must merge, however the document will still have a transparent background.
Try using two documents, one transparent document, and the other to work on your autos. Make all of the changes to the document containing the images of the auto and then cut the object from the document and paste into the transparent document.
Save your image in the PNG format if you are using True Color and GIF in 256 colors.
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keenart
There are several methods for cutting out objects. You can use the Mask Tool and erase the background, the Lasso or Magic Wand tool to select the contours of the auto, or the Extract Object Tool.
Once you have the background deselected you can Paint on Edges and then copy the image to the Clipboard and then paste into the transparent document.
You can Crop the transparent Image to size and then save to a PNG or GIF.
Once you have the background deselected you can Paint on Edges and then copy the image to the Clipboard and then paste into the transparent document.
You can Crop the transparent Image to size and then save to a PNG or GIF.
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frank2005
Hello
Ok, I got the Image to appear in my website page but it's in it's black and white snow look and not in color. BUT NO background as you guys have stated.
Now how to do I get it in color, The Pictures that i'm using, I guess are regular pictures taken on a digital camera.
I saved it in gif and I got to see the picture
I saved it in png and it didn't work ( No Pic showed up on the page).
We are Close my Friends!
Frank
Now how to do I get it in color, The Pictures that i'm using, I guess are regular pictures taken on a digital camera.
I saved it in gif and I got to see the picture
I saved it in png and it didn't work ( No Pic showed up on the page).
We are Close my Friends!
Frank
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heinz-oz
When you saved it in gif format, what were your palette settings? If you only selected 2 colors, that's all you will get. For full color png images, you'll have to start with a good 24 bit RGB image for best results. If you have mucked around with it already and possibly saved it in between as a gif as well, I'm not surprised you don't get anything worthwhile.
Rest assured, it does work if you do it right. Whether or not you are doing it right we can't tell because we don't know what you did with what type of image.
We need a lot more detail and a step by step description of what you do.
Rest assured, it does work if you do it right. Whether or not you are doing it right we can't tell because we don't know what you did with what type of image.
We need a lot more detail and a step by step description of what you do.
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keenart
To Add,
Depending on how many colors you camera supports! If True Color, then you will have to create your New files in True color. Then change the data type to 256 colors before saving to a GIF.
When you Save As to the GIF format the following settings should be set for color:
Color: 256
File type: Indexed
Other than the above, I do not know why the image would go black and white with snow. That is puzzling.
When you Save to PNG, you must have created a New File in True Color.
Depending on how many colors you camera supports! If True Color, then you will have to create your New files in True color. Then change the data type to 256 colors before saving to a GIF.
When you Save As to the GIF format the following settings should be set for color:
Color: 256
File type: Indexed
Other than the above, I do not know why the image would go black and white with snow. That is puzzling.
When you Save to PNG, you must have created a New File in True Color.
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frank2005
Hey Keenart, Still there???
====================================================================keenart wrote:frank2005
Yes, just as heinz-oz indicates, the image must merge, however the document will still have a transparent background.
Try using two documents, one transparent document, and the other to work on your autos. Make all of the changes to the document containing the images of the auto and then cut the object from the document and paste into the transparent document.
Save your image in the PNG format if you are using True Color and GIF in 256 colors.
Listen, I have done as you said above. I open the picture and the transparent doc, I call them Canvases. Once I'm done with the pic that I I cut out, I paste it on to the transparent.
When I save as, I get the Optimizer window pop up. I do have it on 256 colors in the GIF Options. Options are colors 256, wieght green, palette optimized, soft none, file type indexed. (Basicly I leave every thing alone.)
Now the Palette tab is the same. I don't move anything.
What should the options be for GIF??? Mask options, GIF options and Palette
What should the Options be for PNG??? True Color, ?
These are Regular Photos, Pictures that people take with a camera!
Can you still help me?
Frank
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heinz-oz
Did you tick the transparency option? Did you select the transparent color in the mask, if yes how? what is your mask color?
If you are not trying to help yourself by providing decent detail on your process, how do you expect us to help you?
Maybe you could post a screen shot of your palette settings?
If you are not trying to help yourself by providing decent detail on your process, how do you expect us to help you?
Maybe you could post a screen shot of your palette settings?
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frank2005
I've Posted what I do on the Top
When I "save as", I get the Optimizer window pop up.
1. I have it on 256 colors in the GIF Options.
2. Options are colors 256,
3. wieght - green
4. palette - optimized
5. soft - none
6. file type - indexed
(Basicly I leave every thing alone.)
Now the "Palette tab" is the same.
I don't move anything.
Did you tick the transparency option? (((YES)))
Did you select the transparent color in the mask, if yes how?
(((What the Heck is Mask???)))
PLUS YOU CAN NOT PICK A MASK IN GIF OPTIONS!
what is your mask color?
If you are not trying to help yourself by providing decent detail on your process, how do you expect us to help you?
((( ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND I WILL TELL YOU)))
Maybe you could post a screen shot of your palette settings?
1. I have it on 256 colors in the GIF Options.
2. Options are colors 256,
3. wieght - green
4. palette - optimized
5. soft - none
6. file type - indexed
(Basicly I leave every thing alone.)
Now the "Palette tab" is the same.
I don't move anything.
Did you tick the transparency option? (((YES)))
Did you select the transparent color in the mask, if yes how?
(((What the Heck is Mask???)))
PLUS YOU CAN NOT PICK A MASK IN GIF OPTIONS!
what is your mask color?
If you are not trying to help yourself by providing decent detail on your process, how do you expect us to help you?
((( ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND I WILL TELL YOU)))
Maybe you could post a screen shot of your palette settings?
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keenart
Frank2005
You do not need to worry about the MASK OPTIONS or PALETTE settings, they should be grayed out for both GIF and PNG in your case.
Let us refresh again:
If you took color photographs created with a digital camera, they should be set for True Color. Therefore, if you want the most detail from your pics then you want to create New Files with the True Color options checked and the background checked as a transparent canvas. This works for PNG, which was designed to work with True Color.
Most Effects and adjustment in PI require you work in Tue color or they will not work. Which means you should make all of your adjustment to your pic in True Color format before converting to another data type.
PNG is very versatile and you can also save in 256 colors as well. The colors are reduced to 256 and then Indexed and dithered. You cannot save a GIF in True Color only 256 colors or less, see the explanation for GIF below.
Stay with me, I know this is confusing.
So when you SAVE AS using True Color:
For PNG:
Preset: True color
File type: True Color
Filer: None (as default)
For GIF:
If you want to reduce file size or can use fewer colors than True Color, you can Convert Data type to 256 colors, before you SAVE to a GIF.
To convert your image after alteration and before Saving to GIF format do the following to convert True Color to 256 colors:
On the Command Menu, select Adjust, the from the dropdown menu select Convert Data type… Now from the new drop down menu list select either Optimized Indexed 256 color or Indexed 256 color. (Optimized is usually selected when you want to save an image to a Web Page, makes the colors compatible with other browsers.) Again, Now you can save your converted 256 color image to a GIF format.
Note: sometimes converting from True Color to 256 Colors may cause the image to appear grainy, but should not appear snowy or black and white. The only reason I can think of that would cause this problem would be if you used the Transform Tool to stretch the image rather than the Resize option.
The difference between the two is more to do about file quality and size. PNG True color is a large file and of the best quality. GIF is the standard for Web and provides a small file size with a lower quality image.
I hope this helps to explain the various options that you have available to you.
You do not need to worry about the MASK OPTIONS or PALETTE settings, they should be grayed out for both GIF and PNG in your case.
Let us refresh again:
If you took color photographs created with a digital camera, they should be set for True Color. Therefore, if you want the most detail from your pics then you want to create New Files with the True Color options checked and the background checked as a transparent canvas. This works for PNG, which was designed to work with True Color.
Most Effects and adjustment in PI require you work in Tue color or they will not work. Which means you should make all of your adjustment to your pic in True Color format before converting to another data type.
PNG is very versatile and you can also save in 256 colors as well. The colors are reduced to 256 and then Indexed and dithered. You cannot save a GIF in True Color only 256 colors or less, see the explanation for GIF below.
Stay with me, I know this is confusing.
So when you SAVE AS using True Color:
For PNG:
Preset: True color
File type: True Color
Filer: None (as default)
For GIF:
If you want to reduce file size or can use fewer colors than True Color, you can Convert Data type to 256 colors, before you SAVE to a GIF.
To convert your image after alteration and before Saving to GIF format do the following to convert True Color to 256 colors:
On the Command Menu, select Adjust, the from the dropdown menu select Convert Data type… Now from the new drop down menu list select either Optimized Indexed 256 color or Indexed 256 color. (Optimized is usually selected when you want to save an image to a Web Page, makes the colors compatible with other browsers.) Again, Now you can save your converted 256 color image to a GIF format.
Note: sometimes converting from True Color to 256 Colors may cause the image to appear grainy, but should not appear snowy or black and white. The only reason I can think of that would cause this problem would be if you used the Transform Tool to stretch the image rather than the Resize option.
The difference between the two is more to do about file quality and size. PNG True color is a large file and of the best quality. GIF is the standard for Web and provides a small file size with a lower quality image.
I hope this helps to explain the various options that you have available to you.