VS9 Crashing when creating disc with long clips.

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VS9 Crashing when creating disc with long clips.

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I have trawled through the search engines and apologise if this has been covered before in these forums but I cant find anything that covers my problem.

I apologise in advance that I am not very technical and all of this may strike the higher minded amongst you as "lay persons talk"

My parents brought back some DV (from a Sony cam) of their holiday which I edited down into a 5 minute VSP. I then decided to edit all the raw material into another VSP which was 56 minutes.

I attached both these VSPs to one project and tried to burn them onto the same disc. The progress bar showed 60% progress on the first task (title track??) and 2% overall and then froze. VS9 didnt crash (Windows task manager said programme was running normally, and when i cancelled the job VS9 continued to work normally).
I tried a second time, after rebooting. Leaving it overnight to work away and it froze at the same point with no finished project after 14 hours alone. (again cancelling the job left VS9 running normally)

Desperate to show my finished work to my parents, I tried to burn only the 5 minute VSP, which worked!

With a new disc I again tried to attach both VSPs to one project to the same innert response and then just attaching the 56 minute VSP to a project. Both times when i tried burning onto a disc, the programme failed to respond (not even reaching 60% and 2% respectively on this occasion)but on cancellation continued working normally.

I believe my (very new and pretty powerful (see profile for system information)) computer is in good nick with no problems.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be going on.

Thank you for your time reading this
and thank you in anticipation of some feedback..

Yours

Pixie222

PS any questions you have, I will do my utmost to respond quickly.
My parents are waiting for me to be a technical marvel
(little do they know)
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Post by Ken Berry »

When in doubt, read the top sticky post containing Recommended Procedures. Essentially, though, it advises you to

1) Capture in DV/AVI format where possible, and use Firewire for this. I am assuming you already did this since you specificy you have DV videos;

2) Do all of your editing as far as possible in the same format;

3) This is the important one in your case, I suspect. Once you are finished editing, go to Share > Create Video File > DVD to produce a DVD-compatible mpeg-2. Do NOT just leave it as a project file -- a VSP file is not a video file as such. It is a small file which merely tells Video Studio what videos are included, where they are on the computer and what editing has been done to them.

4) During this step, make sure you select appropriate project properties including Field Order (essentially, if you captured from a digital video source, use Lower Field First; but if you captured from an analogue source, use Upper Field First; and if you are doing a slideshow of still images, use Frame Based).

5) The other important quality factor is bitrate, and this affects the final size of your video and how much you can therefore fit onto a DVD. For highest quality DVDs, use 8000 kbps. This will allow you to burn about 1 hour of video to a single layer (4.3 GB) DVD. 6000 kbps will allow around 90 minutes of video in good quality; and 4000 kbps will allow 2 hours of reasonable quality video.

6) The final factor here is the audio codec you use. LPCM will give excellent quality but creates large files, so you will fit less video on a disc if you use this audio format. Dolby gives a very much smaller audio file, so you can fit up to 10 or 15 minutes more of video per disc if you use Dolby. Mpeg layer 2 audio gives similar small sizes to Dolby, but is not part of the NTSC DVD standard, so will not necessarily work on all NTSC DVD players.

7) Once you have produced this mpeg-2 file, and ONLY then, go to Share > Create Disc > DVD, and in the burning module, insert the mpeg-2 file(s), create your menus and burn. Do NOT, as you have done, insert VSP files. Even though this is theoretically possible, experience on this Board suggests it is fraught with problems, as you have now found.

Make sure the burning properties are exactly the same as those in your mpeg-2. Otherwise, the program will try to render the file again, as well as all the multiplexing of video and audio, creation of menus etc, all on the fly, which is a big ask for any computer. This is very likely to cause some loss in quality and also open the possibility of problems such as those you appear to be suffering.

8) When burning, and until you have time to experiment further with this, only use a maximum burn speed of 4x, regardless of the rated speeds of both your burner and the discs you are using.
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