VS 10+ Chapter Markers

[blplhp]

In VS10+, the timeline ruler has a feature for adding chapter markers, however, chapter markers are done in Disc Creation for marking your scene changes. If the Create Disc section has chapter markers for DVD movie creation, what is the purpose of the chapter markers in the editing step on the timeline ruler?

Thanks,

BryanP
Florida

[Ron P.]

Hi Bryan,

What I'm about to tell you could cause great debate on the forums, and cause VS to throw fits..

The idea behind having Cue or Chapter Markers in the Editor of VS, is so you don't have to when you are in the Burn Module, creating your DVD. Do it while editing and be done with that part. HOWEVER you must go against the recommendations, and proceed to Share>Create Disc with your project in the timeline, so the chapter markers will be recognized in the burn module. If you go to Share>Create Video, and after creating your video files, go to Share>Create Disc, and bring in your video files, the chapter marks are no longer there, and you must recreate them.

After reading your post, I tried it both ways. The only way that worked for me, was to have the project still on the timeline.

So I guess they are useful as Cue Points. You can mark a frame for reference to align overlays, and audio. But much beyond that, my opinion is they are not much good as Chapter Markers..

Ron P.

[GeorgeW]

What is interesting with those Chapter marks is that DVD Workshop 2.x and MovieFactory 4.0 (standalone or DMF bundled in MSP8) will recognize the chapter markers

Regards,
George

[sjj1805]

I will have to test this when I get the chance:

• If you want to use Auto Add Chapters, your video must be at least one minute long or the video has scene change information.
• If you click Auto Add Chapters and your video is a DV-formatted AVI file captured from a DV camcorder, Ulead VideoStudio can automatically detect scene changes and add chapters accordingly.
• If the selected video is an MPEG-2 file with scene change information, Ulead VideoStudio automatically generates these chapters for you when you click Auto Add Chapters.

[Ron P.]

I will have to test this when I get the chance:

• If you want to use Auto Add Chapters, your video must be at least one minute long or the video has scene change information.
• If you click Auto Add Chapters and your video is a DV-formatted AVI file captured from a DV camcorder, Ulead VideoStudio can automatically detect scene changes and add chapters accordingly.
• If the selected video is an MPEG-2 file with scene change information, Ulead VideoStudio automatically generates these chapters for you when you click Auto Add Chapters.

Steve,

While posting my above response, I tried using an MPEG-2 (dvd compat) file I had previously created. However when they were created, I did not use the chapter markers, so I inserted it into the Editor, placed some chapter marks, Created a Video File. Then went to the burn module, brought in the video file and VS did not recognize the chapter marks. However leaving the project in the timeline while going to the burn module, VS picked up the chapters....

GeorgeW,
I haven't tried with MF4, I'll have to give that a look...Thanks

Ron P.

[sjj1805]

Result of tests

• If you want to use Auto Add Chapters, your video must be at least one minute long or the video has scene change information.
• If you click Auto Add Chapters and your video is a DV-formatted AVI file captured from a DV camcorder, Ulead VideoStudio can automatically detect scene changes and add chapters accordingly.
• If the selected video is an MPEG-2 file with scene change information, Ulead VideoStudio automatically generates these chapters for you when you click Auto Add Chapters.

I took a 9 and half minute DV (avi) video and placed it onto the VS10+ timeline. I then created chapter points at one minute intervals.
I went to the share tab and selected create video file.
I then rendered the file to PAL DVD 16.9.

I then cleared the timeline by using File | New project.

Here are the results of my tests using this MPEG2 Video file to see if the following programs detected the embedded chapter information.

VideoStudio 10+ - Failed.
DVD MovieFactory 5 Failed.
DVD Movie Factory 4 Disc Creator Edition - Success.
DVD Movie Factory 4 that is part of MediaStudio 8 - Success.
DVD Workshop 2 - Success.

I therefore concluded that there is a fault in VideoStudio 10+ and MovieFactory 5. I shall pass this on to Ulead Tech Support.

[Ken Berry]

I have also tried this experiment with VS10+, using a 29 minute DVD-compatible mpeg-2 as the base file in the timeline.

I inserted chapter cue marks every 5 minutes in the timeline. Then, closing the project, I went to Share > Create Disc, and inserted the file. Selecting Add Chapters, I was presented with the usual choice between Chapters inserted at fixed intervals (default every 3 minutes) or by scene. Both options were accessible. Selecting Chapters based on the default time, these were inserted every three minutes. No chapters were inserted at the 5 minute cues marked in the original file in the timeline. The same occurred when I selected Chapters based on scene.

However, using the same file and chapter cues, but leaving the video in the timeline, when I went to create a disc, the project file was automatically inserted into the burning list. When I selected Add Chapters, I was presented ONLY with the choice of chapters based on time intervals. The Chapters based on scenes was greyed out.

Again, I selected Chapters every 3 minutes. These were inserted, BUT I also had chapters inserted at the 5 minute cues selected in the timeline. I could see no way of using the latter without also selecting some other time period for chapter selection. Selecting 5 minutes as the chapter length at this point would, of course, have defeated the object of the experiment since you would not otherwise have been able to tell whether the program was using the timeline cues or was simply inserting new 5 minute chapter marks.

I found the inability to choose Chapters based on scenes in this situation interesting. I had obviously been hoping to see whether VS10+ would divide the video up by scene AND also still insert my previously cued 5 minute chapter points. But that proved impossible, unless someone has other advice on this.

[tommytucker]

I was wondering why there seems to be no way to have my chapters points in a video file...only if you create disk?