Hi everyone,
i tried to search for a similar topic but i couldnt find, so:
Im using DVD MovieFactory 4 and i got like 6 videos (each one has like 20min) and after i edit everything the way i want and Burn it, its taking more then 10hours (so far so now 10hours and 45min) and still "Converting video title... 5/6"...
My questions are, why it's taking too long and what should i do to reduce this time... ?
If u must know, my config here is:
P4 3.0Ghz 775 fsb800
2x512MB DDR2 Corsair Value Select
120GB SATA Seagate
Elapsed time more then 10hours...
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Terry Stetler
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What is the format of the source files, video and audio? Are they the same frame size as your DVD project settings?
If the frame size of the sources is smaller than the default DVD profile (default: 720x480/576 NTSC/PAL) it can cause very long renders.
Fear not; you can use several lower resolutions in a DVD down to 352x240/288 NTSC/PAL. Also 'legal' are 352x480/576 (aka: ATSC halfD1) and 704x480/756 (ATSC D1). Click the 'Change MPEG settings' box right over the 'do not convert' box to change it.
Choosing one closest to the source size will speed things up. How much depends on the remaining disparity.
If the frame size of the sources is smaller than the default DVD profile (default: 720x480/576 NTSC/PAL) it can cause very long renders.
Fear not; you can use several lower resolutions in a DVD down to 352x240/288 NTSC/PAL. Also 'legal' are 352x480/576 (aka: ATSC halfD1) and 704x480/756 (ATSC D1). Click the 'Change MPEG settings' box right over the 'do not convert' box to change it.
Choosing one closest to the source size will speed things up. How much depends on the remaining disparity.
Terry Stetler
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Flavius
Original Video Files are:
Video
Frame size/fps: 640x480 - 20fps
Decompressor: XviD MPEG-4 codec
Audio:
rate: 48000Hz
Stereo
compression: Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec
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The DVD is like:
720x480 NTSC
Sound its not LPCM, i change it to MPEG
i did another dvd with a low frame size (cant remeber right now and i dont have the dvd with me) was like 352 or 400something and it took the same time
I thought that the creation would take like2, 3 hours tops... but if you say its normal, than i guess i will have to change somethings in the options and see what's the best option to go
Thx
PS: still converting 5/6 and 11hours 36min
hehe
Video
Frame size/fps: 640x480 - 20fps
Decompressor: XviD MPEG-4 codec
Audio:
rate: 48000Hz
Stereo
compression: Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec
--------------------------------------
The DVD is like:
720x480 NTSC
Sound its not LPCM, i change it to MPEG
i did another dvd with a low frame size (cant remeber right now and i dont have the dvd with me) was like 352 or 400something and it took the same time
I thought that the creation would take like2, 3 hours tops... but if you say its normal, than i guess i will have to change somethings in the options and see what's the best option to go
Thx
PS: still converting 5/6 and 11hours 36min
hehe
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Terry Stetler
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Ahhhhh....now IC.
Converting from a highly compressed format like Xvid, DivX, WMV plus the rez change is what's killing you. These are distribution formats, meaning they're unsuitable for authoring or editing without conversion to something that is.
Suggestion: convert the video to something of higher quality (and closer to DVD's requirements) before using them in DVDMF. Videographers call this an 'intermediate codec'.
The freeware version of Stoik Video Converter can do this with MPEG, WMV and AVI as long as your system has Xvid installed. The commercial version adds bells, whistles and a few more i/o options. This program is small enough to run in the background while you do other things.
The highest quality & fastest conversion would be obtained by creating uncompressed video files, but uncompressed files are huge: about 580 megs/minute of content; therefore 2 hours would require at least 70 gigs.
The freeware HuffYUV 2.2 (avoid earlier versions) would create files ~half as large with similar quality. Just set up Stoik for 'Edit Profile/uncompressed files' then choose HuffYUV from the 'Video compressor' list. While you're at it set the audio tp PCM. Only 44.1khz is available, but DVDMF can remux that back to 48khz later.
Now set a DVD-legal resolution (see above) & frame rate and encode.
Either should deliver good results and speed up DVD encoding. Are they perfect? No, but when the source is highly compressed they're often the best path.
Converting from a highly compressed format like Xvid, DivX, WMV plus the rez change is what's killing you. These are distribution formats, meaning they're unsuitable for authoring or editing without conversion to something that is.
Suggestion: convert the video to something of higher quality (and closer to DVD's requirements) before using them in DVDMF. Videographers call this an 'intermediate codec'.
The freeware version of Stoik Video Converter can do this with MPEG, WMV and AVI as long as your system has Xvid installed. The commercial version adds bells, whistles and a few more i/o options. This program is small enough to run in the background while you do other things.
The highest quality & fastest conversion would be obtained by creating uncompressed video files, but uncompressed files are huge: about 580 megs/minute of content; therefore 2 hours would require at least 70 gigs.
The freeware HuffYUV 2.2 (avoid earlier versions) would create files ~half as large with similar quality. Just set up Stoik for 'Edit Profile/uncompressed files' then choose HuffYUV from the 'Video compressor' list. While you're at it set the audio tp PCM. Only 44.1khz is available, but DVDMF can remux that back to 48khz later.
Now set a DVD-legal resolution (see above) & frame rate and encode.
Either should deliver good results and speed up DVD encoding. Are they perfect? No, but when the source is highly compressed they're often the best path.
Terry Stetler
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Flavius
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patriot1123
I am having the same problem. I gave up last night when the render stayed on the same spot for more than 2 hours. Tried one overnight and it crashed. Today it's been on the same spot (a different one) for more than an hour.
So, after reading this thread, I researched and discovered the following.
I have 48 files on this DVD. The first four are 702 x 480 x 24. One near the end is 352 x 240 x 24. The rest are the default size mentioned above, 720 x 480 x 24.
Is that what is causing the problem? Can the rogue files be re-rendered, perhaps in Pinnacle Studio, to the required size?
I don't know the other data above - how would I find that? The seven files were downloaded from a micro DV camera and rendered in Pinnacle Studio. The one, much smaller file was captured from an analog camera and rendered in Pinnacle Studio.
If I continue with this project as is, just how long of a rendering time should I expect? It's about 2.5 gig total space.
And, if all the files are the same size, what is a typical rendering time for this size of project?
Thank you very much for any assistance.
So, after reading this thread, I researched and discovered the following.
I have 48 files on this DVD. The first four are 702 x 480 x 24. One near the end is 352 x 240 x 24. The rest are the default size mentioned above, 720 x 480 x 24.
Is that what is causing the problem? Can the rogue files be re-rendered, perhaps in Pinnacle Studio, to the required size?
I don't know the other data above - how would I find that? The seven files were downloaded from a micro DV camera and rendered in Pinnacle Studio. The one, much smaller file was captured from an analog camera and rendered in Pinnacle Studio.
If I continue with this project as is, just how long of a rendering time should I expect? It's about 2.5 gig total space.
And, if all the files are the same size, what is a typical rendering time for this size of project?
Thank you very much for any assistance.
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patriot1123
Oh, well. I rendered all films to the same size and tried again. The first time it clipped merrily along, on a pace to finish in about 4 hours, and crashed at 2 hours and about 50 percent done. The second time it "hung" again at 40 percent done, over 2 hours now.
I'm glad I tried this before buying. I guess I'll keep looking for a product that works.
I'm glad I tried this before buying. I guess I'll keep looking for a product that works.
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Terry Stetler
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patriot1123
That's a timely suggestion - thanks!! I was just about to give it one more try. I have a second HDD with more space that I installed a couple years ago for a specific video project. I cleaned it up, and transferred the working files there, and I'll try it with the files there. I would really like this program to work. Thanks again!
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Flavius