seamless motion menu transitions

icreadence · Post by **icreadence** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:53 pm

I have a made a DVD with two menus. One is "fake" and it is the motion buttons flying out from the center to their end points and a second with the actual menu for selecting the video to play.
The problem is that the transition (when played on a DVD player) stops and the screen goes blank and the loop point for the motion background also glitches and blanks the buttons and background. The blinking is rather bat at at least 5-15 frames on the DVD player

Is there a fix for this?
Could this be due to a cheep DVD player as this is less noticeable (like only 1 frame) on the PC?

Thanks

PS (I forgot to read the readme first so here is what I forgot)

The motion menus were generated with MSP8.0 AVI(DV 1) 720x480
- I allowed DVDWS to recompress these
The project incudes 8 MPG files, no subtitles/extra audio
The output is an NTSC DVD with AC3 2.0
My system details can be seen on my profile. I am using the Dell, but this should not matter as the program runs fine.

michelehamilton · Post by **michelehamilton** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:58 am

Upon looking further at the quality as I play it back (keep in mind that it's fine in MF5 and Media Player).. it's like.. it has this film over it.. with some lines.. only invisible...

Weird.. thank you so much for reading and trying to help..

Michele:)

icreadence · Post by **icreadence** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:15 pm

NOTE: the above post was in the wrong thread.

Anyhow....
I found one problem that seems to be the difference. I built the clips using MSP8.1 and wanted the audio to fade in and out. The original audio came from 8 clips and this would be a pain to do one at a time. SO I placed the 8 clips in a new time line and brought this new time line into the main time line. In the process of doing so, the last frame became blank.
So the time line with the 8 clips was 12 seconds, the imported time line was 12 seconds, but the last frame (11:29) was blank/black. This meant that the DVD would freeze on the last frame before moving on to the next menu.

The buttons still flash with this fixed (made the duration 11:29), but DVD WS seems to think the video is only 11 seconds, when in fact it is 11:29 so the last almost second is missing. OY

I am continuing to poke around....

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:43 pm

For a 12-second clip, I would be tempted to repeat the clip 5 times in MSP8 (about one minute), and use the longer one-minute video as the motion menu. It might not help with the glitch on the loop-around, but at least you would only see the glitch once every 5 iterations...

Regards,
George

icreadence · Post by **icreadence** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:46 pm

Thank George. That will help with the button flash (but I can only do it 2x since I have DVDWS Express).

The flash is more of an artifact of the player (some are better than others), but loosing 29 frames of the menu leading really makes a jump.
I load in the video for the motion menu background and the duration comes up at 11:00 (the video is 11:29, verified in a media player). I Type in 11:29 and it seems to stick. But when I play the DVD it only plays the first 11 seconds. And when I reload the project the menu length is back to 11 seconds. DVD WS seems adamant about setting this to 11 seconds.

Any Ideas? This even happens with a new project.
Does DVD WS need a motion menu to be an even number of seconds?
EDIT

That seems to be it. I added a frame of black to the beginning of the menu leadin and DVD WS now shows a length of 12 seconds. Also I doubled the menu backgound and it too was rounded (was 11:29 now 23:28 ) to 23 seconds. I am rendering now. Will follow up.