New to Video Editing Question.. Mark in Mark out..

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:02 am

Hi, very new to video editing, and Video Studio. Whats a practical example of using Mark in and Mark out? I understand it marks a section of video for replay, other than that, what else would you use it for?

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:13 am

Mark-In / Mark-Out is really a way to Trim your clips, without actually cutting them. When you select a position to Mark-In, then VS will consider that point as the start or Frame 1. The Mark-Out of course would be the last frame of the clip. Your original captured / transfered clips are not altered, because working in a project, you are just creating instructions on where to start and stop clips, transitions, effects, audio etc..

Ron P.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:18 am

Ahh, I see, k, thanks, umm, is there a place I can go to get basic video editing techniques, faqs, like this? Good book references?, maybe actuall help in the form of video file?

I know I should have searched for this, but, I did, and there was no defintive answer..

Reactor · Post by **Reactor** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:26 am

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a difinitive answer on that (a book, or some training, which covered video editing in general). All the programs are different, and the best way to learn is simply to experiment... after having read through the manual, of course. If you read a book for a different video editor, I'd expect you might come away fairly confused, if you've never done video editing before.

Just keep on googling and asking questions and you'll get there. The best thing to do is deal with issues as you get to them, because video is a detailed beast to handle, at the best of times.

As a small example of in/out usage- I just edited a wedding video that was an hour in length. Instead of trying to cut it up, I simply marked in and out points for each shot I wanted. When I was done, I could arrange them how I liked on the storyboard.

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:00 am

What version of VS are you using? I can recommend a book that will help you out greatly. If you have browsed the forums for any time you would have seen it mentioned several times. Getting Results with..., <-- just click that link, buy the book, and be prepared to learn. It will explain, show and have you editing video in no time. By the way, I'm not affiliated in any way, do not get commissions, or anything. I've used a couple of his products and they are dirt cheap and the best to learn with.

Ron P.

BrianCee · Post by **BrianCee** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:37 pm

MrAmigo2121 wrote:Ahh, I see, k, thanks, umm, is there a place I can go to get basic video editing techniques, faqs, ..

Theres a whole bunch of us right here ready and willing to help - the more basic the better because more of us can answer those - if you start asking difficult questions we have to think.

GerryG · Post by **GerryG** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:41 pm

I understand the concept of Mark In/Out. However if I have a video stream(mpeg, already compressed/converted from AVI) and I want to completely cut the first 7 seconds and the last 12 seconds of the stream what is the best way to do this and in doing so do I have to render the cut video stream again. In other words is there a way to cut a piece from a 90min video stream and leave the rest intact without having to process it for another hour and a half.

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:30 am

Gerry

Just load your clip into VS. Now this is real important to ensure that audio/video sync is not lost, and to cut down on rendering time.
Make sure your project properties match your video properties. Do your cutting. Then render your project, using Same as first video clip. Now typically you make sure to have Smart Render checked and VS will not re-render the entire project. In fact while posting I took a 2 min clip, cut it to 1:45 and rendered it. Total process took only 3 mins.

However now a disclaimer: Users have posted that there is the audio/video sync problems in VS10 when using Smart Render. So you can try a short clip and see if that happens.

Ron P.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:36 am

vidoman wrote:What version of VS are you using?

Just got VideoStudeo 10 Plus. Let me give a little bit of background..

Got the DV camera for Christmas 05, about January 06, started looking for video editing software, found Ulead 9 and downloaded the demo. At the time, I was looking for bang for the buck, so, I bought Pins and stuck them in my Knuckle. Not happy with that I came back to Ulead. So far, I am happy the Pin pain went away.

So far, I learned from my trials and tribulations, don't depend on "one" product for everything. Embrass creativity. I now happily enjoy editing with ULead, doing titles with windows Movie maker, doing 3d titles with Ulead 3D cool, Using other editors for other specific (albeit minor now) endeavers, using 3rd party wav editors etc. Point is, never lock down on one specific "package" .

Now my focus is on technique. I am looking for links on all the cool techniques people use, willing to share them. In fact, I'd be more than happy to start a new post just on technique links, and compile that into a web site for video editing techniques. As an example, solving the "indiana jones mapping" technique. (Assuming there already isn't a web site devoted to such..)

Thanks to all of you for the help, and many thanks to Ulead..

BrianCee · Post by **BrianCee** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:48 am

MrAmigo2121 wrote: I am looking for links on all the cool techniques people use, willing to share them. In fact, I'd be more than happy to start a new post just on technique links,..

There is already a section in these very forums where you can learn new techniques and get tips from others - you can find it here :-

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewforum.php?f=27

..

GerryG · Post by **GerryG** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:48 pm

[quote="vidoman"]Gerry

Just load your clip into VS. Now this is real important to ensure that audio/video sync is not lost, and to cut down on rendering time.
Make sure your project properties match your video properties. Do your cutting. Then render your project, using Same as first video clip. Now typically you make sure to have Smart Render checked and VS will not re-render the entire project. In fact while posting I took a 2 min clip, cut it to 1:45 and rendered it. Total process took only 3 mins.

However now a disclaimer: Users have posted that there is the audio/video sync problems in VS10 when using Smart Render. So you can try a short clip and see if that happens.

Ron P.[/quote

The end result was just what I needed if there were a few hiccups. The rendering process for a 90 min file took 20mins approx which is very acceptable. One strange thing was the input 4.12GB file ended up on output as a 4.97GB file although this did not cause me a problem. I had no lip sync issues with the output. However when I loaded the rendered output file into DVD-Lab Pro and demuxed it, it complained that the audio file had no headers and DVD-Lab Pro had to process the audio file to fix it as it were. I did not completely understand what was going on but it worked fine. The output from DVD-Lab was perfect, no audio sync issues. Thanks Ron for sharing your extensive knowledge, again.