MediaStudio Pro 8 Trial version

jimboy · Post by **jimboy** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:31 pm

I'm currently testing the trial version of MS8. What features are not functional with the trial version? Interested in smart proxy & DVD authoring.

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:45 pm

I just bought msp... it's a good program... but don't get sucked into the dvd authoring (as I did).

The ulead websight states dvd authoring not available for the trial. But when I bought it, I found out that there is no REAL dvd authoring. What I mean by that is that you can not dvd author directly off the time line the way you can with other editors.

You still have to export as a file (as in the trial) and then import to Ulead's Movie Factory that is supplied. It is not a completely integrated system.... I was a little disappointed.

I don't use Movie Factory... but if you want to know what the disk authoring is about, then download the MF trial, and that will give you a rough idea.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:07 pm

It has always been a Ulead policy with MSP to have everything modular, so that they can work as stand-alone apps. This is why you have modules for capturing, editing, audio editing and DVD authoring. In past editions, you also had Video Paint and CGI modules, as well, these now being available separately. One of the advantages of modular programming is that if, for some reason, your works gets buggered up, it is only within the one module which you can restart, and not the whole caboodle.

Each module can be optimised without the programmers having to think whether it is going to upset another function. Also, with separate modules, you can run with fewer resources than if you had everything running simultaneously, so it makes for faster working as both CPU and RAM usage can be optimised for the job in hand and not for something that you may be using in three hours or which you finished using two hours ago. Remember, as well, that not everyone uses DVD authoring: many users produce videos for Internet streaming or for producing VHS tapes, so why should they suffer the consequences of integrated authoring?

Is it so unreasonable to have to swap applications to advance to the next stage of a project? I think not when you reflect on the potential consequences of the opposite.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:27 pm

neonbob wrote:I just bought msp... it's a good program... but don't get sucked into the dvd authoring (as I did).

The ulead websight states dvd authoring not available for the trial. But when I bought it, I found out that there is no REAL dvd authoring. What I mean by that is that you can not dvd author directly off the time line the way you can with other editors.

You still have to export as a file (as in the trial) and then import to Ulead's Movie Factory that is supplied. It is not a completely integrated system.... I was a little disappointed.

I don't use Movie Factory... but if you want to know what the disk authoring is about, then download the MF trial, and that will give you a rough idea.

As Devil has pointed out everything is modular and you should do one thing at a time.

Now if you browse its little brother program VideoStudio which can author a DVD using the timeline you will find that the users of that forum recommend that you DO NOT create a DVD from the timeline. The VideoStudio forum recommendation is to render a video, clear the timeline and then use the new video to author the DVD.

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:54 pm

sjj1805 wrote:
As Devil has pointed out everything is modular and you should do one thing at a time.

Liquid has built in dvd authoring... you ALSO create a file and export to an external if you want.

Studio has built in dvd authoring... you can ALSO create a file and export to an external if you wish.... and this is true with quite a few other programs as well.

This has little to do with modular systems and more to do with providing choices. MSP... you have no choice... and this is what I meant. You should be given the OPTION to author directly from the time line if you wish. This is what I thought MSP was all about when I bought it. Ulead is a little vague when it comes to explaining its dvd authoring system.

Owen · Post by **Owen** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:52 am

Hi Jimboy,
The smart music composer is disabled in the trial.

jimboy · Post by **jimboy** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:31 am

neonbob wrote:I just bought msp... it's a good program... but don't get sucked into the dvd authoring (as I did).

The ulead websight states dvd authoring not available for the trial. But when I bought it, I found out that there is no REAL dvd authoring. What I mean by that is that you can not dvd author directly off the time line the way you can with other editors.

You still have to export as a file (as in the trial) and then import to Ulead's Movie Factory that is supplied. It is not a completely integrated system.... I was a little disappointed.

I don't use Movie Factory... but if you want to know what the disk authoring is about, then download the MF trial, and that will give you a rough idea.

Movie Factory is supplied? It comes with MSP 8?
Also my pc is just a tad slow to handle HDV. (2.4Ghz P4). I was hoping to test smart proxy but it doesn't look like it's functional in the trial.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:54 am

When you purchase MediaStudio 8 you are supplied with an SE (simple edition) version of MovieFactory 4 so that you can author a DVD.

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:28 am

Smart proxy is supposed to be working in the trial... it did for me anyway. I did not play around with it too much though... I have a faster machine so it was not really required. make sure you have it on and set properly.

You should be able to do HD even with a slow machine AND without proxy... the timeline palyback will be a little jumpy though.

I'll tell ya'... I do HD work and I have quite a few programs... including Liquid and pinnacle studio.... I find MSP to be one of the more stable editors for hd work.

Liquid is good but you need a fast machine to run it. If you want to do hd work but don't want to invest in a pricey machine, then MSP is for you. I would be absolutely 100% sold on msp if it were not for the dvd author situation. As it stands now, I do the video editing on MSP then I import to studio 10 to do the sound editing and dvd authoring. (I complain about the dvd authoring because I like to create 5.1 surround sound which always seems to get lost somehow when I export from MSP into another program). So now I just use a dvd author program that includes 5.1 surround tools.

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:08 am

There are several members that use different programs for different stages in the whole process. I guess while it would be nice to have one program that does it all, it's not that bad using a variety. I think Steve has posted the programs he has used for a single project, and the list is rather long.

So if needing to use several programs, do so. It's whatever makes the entire experience easier and more enjoyable for you.

Ron P.