Movie Fact. 4 Standard Edition Upgrade E/S/D and Dual Layer?

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:13 pm

Well I tried it again last night and the only change (other than a new disk of same type) was using Nec 3540 burner this time. The previous one that it didn't work on was BenQ 1640. I am not ready to admit there is a problem with the Benq though, I'm just happy I got a good DL disk

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:32 pm

a couple of links for you to look at

Create DVD from Hauppauge TV card

Authoring a DVD

The procedures between VideoStudio and MovieFactory are almost identical.

Regarding ISO files.
This is a matter of personal choice some members prefer to create an ISO image. I myself prefer the 'burn to hard drive folder' method.
The ISO image is basically a copy of the DVD disc and so is suitable for burning several copies. However the image cannot be read (on the hard drive) without special software.
Burning to a Hard Drive folder results in a copy of all of all of the files that will appear on the DVD disc being placed into a hard drive folder.
You are now able to view the completed DVD just as though you had inserted the DVD disc in your player. This enables you to give it that final check that everything has been constructed to your liking.
You can then use your favourite DVD burning software to create multiple copies of your completed DVD.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:55 pm

For what it's worth, I fully agree with Steve's comment. I also do not create ISO files but author my DVD's to the HDD in DVD folders. First of all you can play the DVD from the folder on the PC and simply burning the folder to a blank DVD alows you to play it on a stand alone DVD player. Best of both worlds.

url · Post by **url** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:33 am

Hi, I am getting really confused about the ISO and my original post. I don't want to repeat myself as everything that I am still looking for answers for is outlined in my last post.

I hope someone can respond as the contents of my problem when I originated this thread are in this last post.

I look forward to replies, thankyou.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:11 am

Sorry url, you are totally right, we allowed this thread to be highjacked by someone else.

Now, to come back to your last post, let me say this:

A few people here advocate the creation of an ISO image rather than burning straight to DVD disk. I don't. I basically let MF 4 create the DVD folder on my HDD and then, in a separate step, I burn this folder to a DVD blank.

There is nothing complex about this and you can even tell DVD Shrink to shrink this down if required. Try that with an ISO image

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To item 3 of your last post

3. Third D/L available is 2005/11/6 and it is Build 4.04 and it indicates in the "xp" section that this d/l will not work with DVD Movie Factory SE or Suite Versions.
So, I might think that my Standard Edition (Upgrade/ESD) which is on the outside of the disc will likely not work???

I'm not quite clear on the version you have. Where do you get the term "Standard Edition" from? In brackets you also state Upgrade/ESD. If, in fact, your currently used version is a downloaded upgrade (ESD) version of MF 4, we are dealing with a "Full" version and all the patches should work with it. Since the latest patch (build 4.04) does contain the previous patch data, this is all you would need to install.

When you open MF 4 and look at the "About" menu item, what version designation do you see?

url · Post by **url** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:55 am

Thx for the reply, I can't look up the information that you have asked about right now as I have my notebook in the shop for maintenance and am using my other notebook which does not have the program on it.
However, the name "Ulead DVD Movie Factory 4 Standard Ed. (Upgrade/Esd)" Ref. 23585065 is printed right on the outside of the disc that came with my Hauppauge Win TV pvr usb disc and the Hauppauge unit itself.
I was posting to try to get my dual layers done before I put the notebook in the shop, however it did not quite work out that way.

I tried to call Ulead today but kept getting a busy signal and BenQ support phoned me back today and said that there is no reason that my external burner should not create a dual layer disc unless it is possibly something to do with the MF 4.

I reread the prior posts again and noticed that the one post indicates that the patch was not just limited to the full version (which I don't know if that is the problem with my disc) however you will note in my lengthy prior post that when I researched the Movie Factory I posted what I found and it indicated that the one update did not apply to SE versions.

I am not sure where the other member got his patch from for dual layers that was indicated as not being limited to the full version only???

I have always captured to My Videos in mpeg 2 and then burned a dvd via project with MF 4 but can't do it with dual layer??

Thanks again for the interest and responses.
Best Regards.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:16 am

The update patch (Build Number: 4.01, Release Date: 2005/06/07) does not list a restriction for the different versions and hence should work.

The latest patch (Build Number: 4.04, Release Date: 2005/11/25) For Windows XP, 2000 only, only states: NOTE: This update pack will NOT work with DVD MovieFactory SE or Suite versions.

If your version does not present itself as an SE or VE version in the location I pointed out, chances are it will work.

I also seem to remember people on this board using BenQ burners.

When do you get your notebook back?

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:31 am

After re-reading your posts, something else struck me. Have you ever considered not to burn to disk from MF 4? You could, (as a matter of fact, I do) use MF4 to create the DVD folders on your HDD. You can then use any burning program to burn the DVD folder to dual layer. It also allows for DVD Shrink to shrink the DVD in case it came out a bit oversize.

I have adopted the DVD folder approach not because I had problems burning straight to disk but rather to have a backed up copy of my DVDs on other than an optical disk. All optical disk blanks, be it CD or DVD, have production errors. Usually these are minute enough for a DVD player to ignore. Copying a self burned disk again to make another copy could, potentially, increase the risk of having a disk that won't play in a DVD player. Keeping my folders on the HDD eliminates this danger and I always copy from a non optical disk.

It may be worth a try in your case. I'm sure your BenQ burner came with burning software such as NERO or Roxio. These should be able to use the DL feature of your burner if MF 4 can't.

url · Post by **url** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:56 am

Thx again for your input. Tis a good question as to when I will get my notebook back, as when it was in for a warranty touch pad repair; the notebook stopped requesting my BIOS password which I had to have on the notebook for work.

The Tech has been giving me the run around saying that it was a coincidence that the BIOS password can't be reset after they replace the touchpad and that the mainboard needs replacing.
I called the head office and complained and so Toshiba has authorized another Depot to look at it and find out what the problem is.

So I am going to be waiting for the call to tell me what the problem with the unit is. At present I am not happy with all the inconvenience as the Authorized Depot that I had to take it to is a 45 min drive.
So who knows!!!

I won't be able to tell the version until i get it back and look at the areas that you were so good to circle and make clear to a noob like me to locate.

I must say that I am still confused about the disc burning, b/c I thought that after I capture the video with my Hauppauge win tv programme and it goes into "My videos" folder as an mpeg 2 that I have to use Ulead Movie Factory 4 to create a project.
That was the impression I got from the Tech at Hauppauge when I phoned them last year as I am converting from mpeg to dvd.

I have Nero but he said that would not do the conversion that I had to use MF 4 that came with the unit. It does work fine except for the dual layer problem.

I do successful burns of dvds with Clone Dvd, 1 Click Dvd, Dvd Shrink, sometimes Nero and of course with some backups I have to use the program Any Dvd by Slysoft.

Thought I would post this now anyway. I am really curious to see what version of MF 4 it is that I have.
I really want to be able to create a dual layer dvd from my captured mpeg 2 from the Hauppauge if that is the only alternative which is what I think.
But I am a Noob and so I look to the experienced users at this great forum for some guidance which I really appreciate very much.
Cheers and best regards!!

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:04 am

If your computer tech has suggested you may need a new motherboard do you think the problems you are having may be connected to a faulty computer?

Perhaps you need to wait until the computer has been sorted out and then see if the video related problems still exist.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:19 am

For reasons stated before, I suggest to use the DVD folder approach and burn with NERO.

The info you received is correct. You cannot just burn an mpeg2 file to DVD and expect it to play on a DVD player. You need a program like MovieFactory to author your mpeg2 files to DVD (VOB, BUP, IFO files). That doesn't mean you need MF to burn to DVD, although that should work.

In the final stage, instead of burning to disk, select to burn to DVD folders.

The resultant DVD folder "Video_TS" you can burn straight to DVD disk like any other data.

url · Post by **url** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:19 pm

i forgot to mention that I did try this dual layer burn a couple of months ago and abandoned it as it would not work and I needed something for a workshop I was doing and so I selected something that would fit onto a standard 4.75 disc and captured, authored and created the dvd with MF 4.

Is there one program that is capable of capturing and creating a vhs tape without me having to introduce another program into this process. I usually do this while I am working on some work and watch the process to completion and really don't want to have to fiddle around and burn a dvd with another program

I should ask here as well where the Link is that applies to the patch that the member indicated had no specifications that it was for the Full Version, as I indicated in my lenghty prior post the one that I found indicated that it did not work with "SE or Suites" versions and I am wondering if the "SE" applies to Standard Edition which is printed on the face of my disc. I would like to go to that site now and take a read.

MF4 does such a good job with my regular 4.75 discs that I really don't want to have to fiddle around with another program.
I watch it go through the steps and test it out and am very satisfied except for the dual layer problem.
Again, I thankyou for the comments and I may just install the program on this notebook so that I can see what edition it is.
Cheers and best regards.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:00 pm

url wrote:...Is there one program that is capable of capturing and creating a vhs tape without me having to introduce another program into this process. I usually do this while I am working on some work and watch the process to completion and really don't want to have to fiddle around and burn a dvd with another program....

Don't fall into the trap of looking for an "All in one" Video Editing Solution.
When you own more than one piece of software connected to video editing - use the best of whats available.

My Camcorder captures are done with MediaStudio 8
My TV card captures are done with WinTV2000
My DV (Camcorder) video Editing is done with either VideoStudio or MediaStudio dependant upon the complexity of the project.
My Analogue (TV Card) editing is done with Womble.
My DVD authoring is done partly with PhotoImpact and partly with DVD Workshop.
My Audio Editing is done with Audacity.

url · Post by **url** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:19 pm

Somehow my original post keeps getting misunderstood, I am simply looking for the solution to doing a successful dual layer from a captured vhs mpeg 2 that sits in "My Videos" file and doing this with MF 4 as the Tech at Hauppauge indicated when I spoke to him in New York should be possible.
And I have confirmed this with BenQ support in California in respect of my external burner bought last November.

I have not mentioned my camcorder and this post does not deal with that.

I hope that this will correct any misunderstanding. I mentioned the fact that I did not want to use anymore than the "Win tv" program and the "MF 4 " to create a dual layer dvd as an earlier post said that I could use Nero as well to complete the project.

I simply want to be able to do it as the Tech at Hauppauge indicated that I could by capturing with Win Tv and authoring and creating with MF 4 ( if I am using the correct terminology).
This process works successfully with my regular 4.75 dvd's that I create.

Again, i am not talking about camcorders etc.
Simply the Hauppauge.
Also, I am not looking to do any editing and have not mentioned that at all in this post.
I am trying my best to explain what I am doing and find out what can prevent it from happening.

Thankyou and I hope this clarifies any misunderstanding.

Cheers and best regards.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:10 pm