MSP8 is Rubbish!!!!!!!!

[rdenny]

The majority of forum posts on windows systems running audio/video software is hardware related issues.

How true. I use MSP8 heavily on a Dell Inspiron 9300. It has worked flawlessly (well, apart from the poor 2-pass VBR encoding I posted about earlier). Most of the time, the hardware problems are dodgy video boards/drivers, and less often, dodgy RAM.

Cheap != better.

I spend a lot of time supporting astronomers who want my software to make their cheap telescopes/CCD cameras into something better. Then they get angry because there is no "software victory over hardware".

[Gra]

Crickey, what a little firecracker this thread has turned out to be! I noticed that little ol' me has even been named and shamed by Video-Guy. Isn't it amazing how things can get taken out of context.

I made my comments about the webboard because there was a hint the thread had been started by someone that was doing so dishonestly. No slur on you VG and I was pleased when you cleared that up by coming back on-line.

I think this board is really good, with a lot of patient expert people helping with both technical and artistic advice or tips. That was the point I was making. We have people on here who are a complete cross section of skills, knowledge and abilities and the board should be to help anyone with a genuine problem or who wants some advice to achieve an effect. I think, with all the comments flying around this thread, that has been proved again as people with greater knowledge and expertise are still trying to focus on fathoming out where some of the problems are.

I am not an employee of ULead, but I do like MSP. Yes, I do get crashes but I can't blame that on ULead as my system can crash using Word or Outlook or whatever. Having said that, 95% or more of the time MSP, VS eight, Video Paint, CGI, etc, work sans problemo (touching a lot of wood). In my view that can't all be bad in view of the complex nature of NLE and related programmes and the resources they need.

Still thanks for lumping me in with the experts. Sadly for me that's not the case (as you can see by all of my threads asking some really basic questions), but it's flattering - even if it will probably my one and only time.

[DarrenD]

tv_news_guy went a long way to show the correct way how to install Windows XP and MSP.

I would like to add a few extra points.

The first hardware driver to add should be any motherboard drivers (if applicable). I used to have a Asus K7V (slot A Athlon days) and needed to install an AMD processor patch and VIA 4-in-1 drivers. This might not be an issue with modern motherboards.

Also if Video_guy is having so many problems it might be worth creating a dual-boot setup where MSP is the only software on it. This will minimise the possibility of conflicts.

This is how I currently work. I started off with my working Windows XP system, created a new partition using BootItNG (www.bootitng.com) and installed Windows XP, SP2, drivers (motherboard/video/sound/LAN), ZoneAlarm (just in case), no antivirus, MSP (8.0/DirectX), MSP Service Pack 1. At this point I took a partition image using BootItNG so I can re-install rapidly in a disaster. My video files are on an external USB2 300Gb hard disc that is kept away from the machine (in case of PC theft). Using BootItNG again I created a simple boot menu with "Video Editing" and "Normal Machine". Not only are the possibility of conflicts reduced but also your video editing setup will be much leaner and hence faster/more stable.

sjj1805 has a long (excellently detailed) post on setting up a hardware profile http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=13950 but this is really like dual-booting within Windows rather than a true dual-boot where the 2 Windows setups are completely separate. If you are suffering conflicts a true dual-boot should be preferable.

Hope this helps anyone, especially Video_guy

[Video_guy]

Well guys now that things have calmed down a little, i would like to thank everyone for all the advice that has come my way, i'm sure things should be a lot better when i get time at the weekend to impliment it all.

PS. Do I get a prize for starting one of the longest threads?

[neonbob]

This is how I currently work. I started off with my working Windows XP system, created a new partition using BootItNG (www.bootitng.com) and....

Yet another one using BOOTitNG.... bloody good little program isn't it!

[DarrenD]

Yes it is. I got it originaly for the boot manager because I wanted to dual-boot Windows 98SE (games) and Windows 2000 (work) and have specific data partitions separate and different ones hidden. The boot manager that came with PartitionMagic, namely BootMagic, could only hide a partition all the time or not at all. I wanted partitions A and B hidden in Windows 98SE and partitions C and D hidden in Windows 2000.

The fact that you get (admittedly DOS-style, non-Windows) a partition manager and also a image maker/restorer for less than the cost of single PartitionMagic or single DriveImage (of course each of these are separate programs and you need to buy both) is a bonus.

My only gripe is that it is not possible to batch up partition change requests, e.g. shrink partition A, then move it and then resize partition B. However, for the few times I use those features I can live with it.

Darren

[neonbob]

My only gripe is that it is not possible to batch up partition change requests, e.g. shrink partition A, then move it and then resize partition B. However, for the few times I use those features I can live with it.

Darren

Agreed....

A small freeware disk imager that I used to use called SAVEPART did this to an extent... it had the ability to copy occupied sectors only so you could place the image into any partition that was big enough... but it's DOS based and I was forced to give it up when I decided to go with NTFS paritions... too bad.

You should put this idea on the Terrabyte's websight though... maybe they will consider it.

[DarrenD]

I suggested it in their newsgroups some years ago but they didn't seem to take any notice of the suggestion.