Editing VS10 smartscene menu with PI10?

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:29 am

sjj1805 wrote:Please view:
Smartscene menus and menu transitions

Thank you Steve, I missed this one and duly printed the PDF.
I need to digest it now (29 pages...).

BUT at first glance it specifically deals with PI11 and thus bypasses my question.
Which was: can we edit those VS10/MF5 menus using PI10?

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:54 am

Daniel,

Yes you should be able to. The main concern is the proprietary file format of *.ufo, which PI 10 should be able to save to.

Ron P.

BrianCee · Post by **BrianCee** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:19 pm

daniel

That "HM_Happy_Birthday_Start.AVI" video you are using is NOT a standard PAL format, check out it's properties - it is an NTSC video with a resolution of 720 x 480 - a normal PAL video would be 720 x 576 and would therefore fill the thumbnail on the DVD template perfectly - I do get the black corners if I use that one.

This is as I said earlier - I never see the problem of the black corners using standard PAL video - have you tried that menu with a 720 x 576 video ?

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:16 pm

Brian,

This was an example to make my point, that the frame and the scene were modifiable together but not separately inside VS10.
It was chosen only because it is mainly white and so the black part is highlighted.

If I needed to use that video, or any other, or a slide show with 3:2 pictures, or anything that is not 4:3, I would need to edit the frame window of this menu.

My question was general, as I could for instance need to change the color of the frame to match the scene, or add a logo somewhere.
But when I import the menu into PhotoImpact10, I get error messages and the saved menu is not loadable into VS10 again. That happens even if I don't make any modification to the menu.
Hence I'm wondering if it can be done at all.

Vidoman says he thinks yes, but I can't do it.
Maybe this question is more a DVDMF5 (the menus are not strictly a VS10 thing) or even Photo Impact.

These UFOs have something that is not swallowed by my PI10, or my procedure is wrong, that's why I wanted to post the question
did somebody ever made it, in order to decide if it is worth trying further or forget the idea.

Someone can load
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10\Content\Menu Template\4x3\One Scene Button\05vs_OneS01.ufo (or equivalent path) into PI10 and not have error messages of missing items from the Menu plug-in?
With an active Export button?
Or better, does someone have the same behaviour but knows why and how to correct it?

Disclaimer
KIDS: don't save when trying this, it will corrupt the file and render it unusable, so you'd have to reinstall VS10. Make a copy of the UFO if you wish to try.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:04 pm

daniel wrote:Thank you Steve, I missed this one and duly printed the PDF.
I need to digest it now (29 pages...).

BUT at first glance it specifically deals with PI11 and thus bypasses my question.
Which was: can we edit those VS10/MF5 menus using PI10?

You can use PhotoImpact 10 in the same manner as the Tutorial I created using PhotoImpact 11. To make life easier I advise that you download and install the PhotoImpact® Menu Plug-in

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:52 pm

of course I have the menu plug-in installed...The PI10 version.

RussB · Post by **RussB** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:26 pm

Brian,

You said: ...so there is a very good chance that templates from VS8 would work OK

I copied all VS8's *.ufo templates into
Ulead Video Studio 10/Content/Menu Template/4X3/Scene Button

It works fine. Thanks for giving me the confidence to do that.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:39 pm

Steve -- re the menu plug-in. I assume it only works with Workshop and not with VS...?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:16 am

Ken,
The plug in only lists DVD Workshop. That is misleading because they work in all of Uleads DVD products

DVD Workshop
MovieFactory
VideoStudio
CD & DVD PictureShow

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:51 am

Well I checked again yesterday, all new menus (those delivered with VS10), i.e. in the folders One Scene Button, Scene Button and Text Button don't load into PI10 without giving warnings, and a disabled export button form the menu plug-in of PI10.

All other menus from previous versions of VS, from DVDWS2 and from DVDMF4 load OK.

So I can just conclude until proven wrong, that VS10/DVDMF5 menus require PI11 to be edited, if they can be at all.

Oh well.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:15 am

Some of the menus contain errors as I found when I came to edit some with PhotoImpact Version 11 as shown in This Post

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:54 am

I'm probably even dumber that I thought, but I fail to find the relevant part in this lengthy discussion about 12 button menus and copying of menus from one application to another. Must have browsed it five times, didn't catch it. Sorry I'm getting old.

I'm just opening the 05vs_OneS01.ufo or the others "new" and I got errors/warnings.

Can you specify more precisely in what part of the discussion you speak about this error in some menus of VS10? Just following or preceding what?

Really sorry to be a pain but I would at least try to learn something, even if my project is now finished, enlarging the video to get rid of the black zones and thereby have lost interest in the operation itself.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:38 am

sjj1805 wrote:Did you try the one in the above zip file?
There were errors in the 12 thumb contained in one of the other products, That's why I created one which I got to work in MF5 and also VS10.

I was highlighting the fact that I had previously discovered that some of the ready made - supplied by Ulead - menus have minor errors.
In that thread some users were having problems opening menus with large numbers of thumbnails - I investigated mine and thats how I found those errors.

I then supplied the forum with a correctly working 12 thumbnail menu of my own creation just to answer the query in that thread.

The Menus with errors I was able to rectify - couldn't now tell you which they were because I've fixed mine.

The point I was making in this thread is that the menus you are having problems with using Photo Impact 10 possibly also contain errors.
Technically there is no reason why MF5 or VS10+ menus cannot be opened and modified by any version of PhotoImpact.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:00 pm

sjj1805 wrote wrote:Technically there is no reason why MF5 or VS10+ menus cannot be opened and modified by any version of PhotoImpact.

Yes, yes, that's exactly the question I'm asking in this thread (and asked in PhotImpact forum too). Did anyone get it to work? Because I don't and I can imagine - I'm not saying or suggesting it is so - that they with the latest version introduced a new format of the menus, that PI10 would not understand.

Up to now, nobody in both forum said they succeeded in editing one of the new menus (all those I tried in the 3 sections fail).
But I understand you suggest this is more probably due to a bug or something they overlooked rather than a designed new feature.

You see originally I wanted to enlarge a window a few pixels in height. That was to be 1-minute modif to correct something not-too-nice in an almost ready slide show.
Never yell "one more minute dear" when you're at the computer. You'll eat cold.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:08 pm

daniel wrote:.......Never yell "one more minute dear" when you're at the computer. You'll eat cold.

Daniel. I think we ought to stick to one thread. Having two discussions about one issue is getting a bit clumsy and prone to confusion which is what I think is happening here.