No sound, movement in project playback VS8 .. please help

[aberration]

I'm trying to string together small clips of video from my digital camera to make one long movie. The clips I insert into editing are in Quicktime (.mov) format and are small files, only 2000Kb or so. But when I finish the project, it ends up being a huge file (750,000Kb) and there is no movement or sound. I have tried saving the project in different formats and I get the same result. Can anyone help me with this?

p.s. I'm very much a beginner so keep it simple

[thecoalman]

Your probably dealing with a framerate issue, mov files are not NTSC or Pal standard but a frame based standard for the web. There really not suitable for conversion to DVD.

Highlight one of your clips in the open video dialog box and look at the properties. See what the framerate is.

[jchunter]

As a beginner, you *must* start by reading the top post, which guides you through the pitfalls of video editing with Video Studio. Follow the Recommended Procedure carefully. Learn about video properties because they can make or break your success.

[thecoalman]

PSSSSssssssst JC

I'm trying to string together small clips of video from my digital camera to make one long movie. The clips I insert into editing are in Quicktime (.mov) format and are small files, only 2000Kb

That type of file format and size usually indicates a digital camera. Your guide doesn't apply.

[aberration]

Highlight one of your clips in the open video dialog box and look at the properties. See what the framerate is.

The framerate on all my clips is 14.988 frames/sec. And it is a video clip from a digital camera. Does this mean I may not be able to edit with mov clips?

[thecoalman]

Edit yes, use on a regular DVD is going to be little bit of work.

Before I continue just want to make 100% sure it's a still camera?

[aberration]

Yes it's a still camera that also captures video as well. And I'm not really aiming to make a dvd that can be played on a tv. Being able to view it on the computer is sufficient. I'm mainly interested in being able to edit.

[thecoalman]

Yes it's a still camera that also captures video as well. And I'm not really aiming to make a dvd that can be played on a tv. Being able to view it on the computer is sufficient. I'm mainly interested in being able to edit.

You can view it now right? Just trying to figure out how to edit it?


This is for VS7 but should be similar if not the same for VS8.

Write your file properties down. Select file in the upper left corner, select make movie manger, select new, from the drop down box select Quciktime Movie, Name the template and select OK. This will bring up the dialog box , match the properties to your video. If any make no sesne just leave them alone. You can experiment with these with different templates to compare quality/compression.


Edit your movie, then select share and choose the template you created.

That should do it. I can't seem to load the template as a project setting which shouldn't ake adifference from file>project properties . You might want to see if you can with VS8. I'm going of of VS7 LE that feasture may be crippled in the version I have, so see if you can load the template as project setting before starting to import video and editing.

[aberration]

From the drop down box I could only select from MPEG and AVI files, no Quicktime Movie option. I probably should have mentioned that I am using the free trial download of VS8 to see if I wanted to purchase it. That might be why there is no Quicktime option. Though if there is no Quicktime option in the real version of VS8, then I am out of luck.

Thank you for all your info, you've been quite helpful on this matter, but I'm guessing that I can't edit with this version of VS and my Quicktime clips.

[THoff]

You don't need to be able to edit as QuickTime in order to edit QuickTime files.

When UVS gives you a choice of MPEG2 or AVI, it is referring to the intermediate format that it uses when you apply filters or transitions within your project. You can still use QuickTime video as the source files, or even output to QuickTime when you render your project.

[aberration]

You don't need to be able to edit as QuickTime in order to edit QuickTime files.

When UVS gives you a choice of MPEG2 or AVI, it is referring to the intermediate format that it uses when you apply filters or transitions within your project. You can still use QuickTime video as the source files, or even output to QuickTime when you render your project.

I've been able to edit, but the problem is when I play the project back there is no movement or sound and a small size file is turned into a giant file after I've saved it. I can't seem to figure out why there is no sound or movement after I've edited.

[THoff]

MOV files are still just containers much the same way that AVI files are, the video and audio can be compressed using different algorithms. If you take a Sorenson or MPEG4-encoded MOV file, edit it, and output it to another MOV file but don't compress it, then the file will grow significantly.

When you say you play the project back, is that inside UVS, or outside UVS with a separate application such as the QuickTime Player or Windows Media Player?

[aberration]

MOV files are still just containers much the same way that AVI files are, the video and audio can be compressed using different algorithms. If you take a Sorenson or MPEG4-encoded MOV file, edit it, and output it to another MOV file but don't compress it, then the file will grow significantly.

When you say you play the project back, is that inside UVS, or outside UVS with a separate application such as the QuickTime Player or Windows Media Player?

I've played it in UVS, Quicktime and Windows, all with the same result. Do you think I need to compress the file?

[thecoalman]

From the drop down box I could only select from MPEG and AVI files, no Quicktime Movie option.

Put a single clip on the timeline go to share>create video>custom Selct AVI files from the drop down then hit options, try the mpeg4 codec if present. You make few test clips try some different codec under the compression setting. Note that some will compress well making a small file size but will reduce the quality. Just make sure you match the other settings as close to the original properties as possible, you may have to pick 15 as a framerate.

Once you figured out a good setup follow the directions I gave you above to set up a template if you plan on using it a lot.

[THoff]

If there source video is compressed, then you will need to compress the rendered output file as well, or you'll wind up with a much larger file.

But that still doesn't address why you get no sound or movement. Does your camera come with any drivers or other software that must be installed to use the MOV files? I'm trying to understand why you can play the files, but not import them correctly into UVS / render them to a new MOV file.

The only time that I have heard of problems with importing video files that can be played outside of UVS is when people ran afoul of Digital Rights Management (DRM), something that QuickTime supports. But since there files came from your own camera, this shouldn't apply.

Have you tried outputting to a format other than QuickTime such as AVI or MPEG2 to see if they play correctly? If they do, then the QuickTime on your system may have a decode-only codec, i.e. one that can play back video and audio, but not encode.