ADS 2.0 Instant DVD
-
mspears
ADS 2.0 Instant DVD
Does MSP 8 support capture with ADS 2.0 Instant DVD? I'm currently using MSP 6.5 until I finish a couple of projects, then I'm upgrading to version 8. 6.5 only supported ADS 1.? and I never could get 2.0 to capture. Thanks.
Possibly, possibly not. However, such a device is NOT recommended for editing analogue input.
1. The output is ONLY MPEG which is a distribution format, unsuitable for editing without quality loss
2. The interface is USB, which is hardly recommended for high bitrate conversions and may cause frame drops, which may be fatal in MPEG if a lost frame is I type.
A much better choice would be something like the Canopus ADVC-110 which does analogue <> DV and has an IEEE-1394 interface. Much more reliable and hassle-free. It has an added advantage: you can monitor preview through it onto a TV screen, so that you can adjust what you are doing to real TV straight from your MSP8. And you maintain video quality because you will not be working in a distribution format, while MSP8 can encode your project to MPEG when you have everything exactly as you want it..
1. The output is ONLY MPEG which is a distribution format, unsuitable for editing without quality loss
2. The interface is USB, which is hardly recommended for high bitrate conversions and may cause frame drops, which may be fatal in MPEG if a lost frame is I type.
A much better choice would be something like the Canopus ADVC-110 which does analogue <> DV and has an IEEE-1394 interface. Much more reliable and hassle-free. It has an added advantage: you can monitor preview through it onto a TV screen, so that you can adjust what you are doing to real TV straight from your MSP8. And you maintain video quality because you will not be working in a distribution format, while MSP8 can encode your project to MPEG when you have everything exactly as you want it..
[b][i][color=red]Devil[/color][/i][/b]
[size=84]P4 Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHz/Elite NVidia NF650iSLIT-A/2 Gb dual channel FSB 1333 MHz/Gainward NVidia 7300/2 x 80 Gb, 1 x 300 Gb, 1 x 200 Gb/DVCAM DRV-1000P drive/ Pan NV-DX1&-DX100/MSP8/WS2/PI11/C3D etc.[/size]
[size=84]P4 Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHz/Elite NVidia NF650iSLIT-A/2 Gb dual channel FSB 1333 MHz/Gainward NVidia 7300/2 x 80 Gb, 1 x 300 Gb, 1 x 200 Gb/DVCAM DRV-1000P drive/ Pan NV-DX1&-DX100/MSP8/WS2/PI11/C3D etc.[/size]
The ADS Instant DVD 2.0 is a hardware mpeg encoder, and just transfers the encoded mpeg video to your computer via USB (USB2 allows for higher bitrates to transfer smoothly vs. USB1).
MSP8 does not automatically recognize the device. You might be able to modify some capture-plugin files for MSP8, but that might be too much work for nothing really gained (imho). For captures, I would recommend capturing using the ADS Tech software -- CapWiz -- it has a clean interface designed specifically for the unit. You can then use those captured mpegs for Authoring (no re-encoding would be needed if you plan the mpegs to be compliant based on the type of disc you want to create).
For editing, as already stated, mpeg isn't the best choice to start with. But if straight cuts are all you are doing, then that should be fine.
Regards,
George
MSP8 does not automatically recognize the device. You might be able to modify some capture-plugin files for MSP8, but that might be too much work for nothing really gained (imho). For captures, I would recommend capturing using the ADS Tech software -- CapWiz -- it has a clean interface designed specifically for the unit. You can then use those captured mpegs for Authoring (no re-encoding would be needed if you plan the mpegs to be compliant based on the type of disc you want to create).
For editing, as already stated, mpeg isn't the best choice to start with. But if straight cuts are all you are doing, then that should be fine.
Regards,
George
If you are doing straight cuts, then MSP8 is MASSIVE overkill.
[b][i][color=red]Devil[/color][/i][/b]
[size=84]P4 Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHz/Elite NVidia NF650iSLIT-A/2 Gb dual channel FSB 1333 MHz/Gainward NVidia 7300/2 x 80 Gb, 1 x 300 Gb, 1 x 200 Gb/DVCAM DRV-1000P drive/ Pan NV-DX1&-DX100/MSP8/WS2/PI11/C3D etc.[/size]
[size=84]P4 Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHz/Elite NVidia NF650iSLIT-A/2 Gb dual channel FSB 1333 MHz/Gainward NVidia 7300/2 x 80 Gb, 1 x 300 Gb, 1 x 200 Gb/DVCAM DRV-1000P drive/ Pan NV-DX1&-DX100/MSP8/WS2/PI11/C3D etc.[/size]
Not really, it depends on how the user is actually using all their tools. I happen to have both MSP8 and the Instant DVD 2.0 (and a bunch of other software as well -- as I am sure you do as well).Devil wrote:If you are doing straight cuts, then MSP8 is MASSIVE overkill.
I use MSP8 for editing all my DV stuff, as well as some material that originates from DVD's (dvd recorder or camcorder that records to dvd's), and also from the IDVD2 unit.
MSP8 can really help in creating those quick intro/outro's (Smart Compositor). It can also add in an auto-music track (when I need one). And some quick animated or Still Titles with the WYSIWYG Titler
And you can also use MSP8's Authoring tool to quickly create a DVD from the captured mpegs.
It's not a situation where I said -- hey I'll get MSP8 to use with my Instant DVD 2.0. It's more that I happen to already have the Instant DVD 2.0, and I have MSP8 to do more advanced editing, and can still use it when my source is from the IDVD2 unit...
Regards,
George
George,
As ADS users we both know the advantages of this hardware encoder. Devil(Brian) in this case may not. This unit can do TV output, manual color-correction on the fly and take edited DV from MSP's timeline and encode to MPEG in real-time via "loopback" method. Using all of the above has proven time and time again to produce a better encode than any software encoder. For testing purposes, I used the same DV source material and compared the final output from hardware encoder(loopback) versus MSP's MPEG encoder, Canopus Procoder 2 and TMPGEnc all with 2 passes. Hardware won everytime. Being able to make changes in color-correction like sharpness, contrast, etc... allows one to counter the usual loss in these areas during the encoding and compression process where software fails. Visual tests were conducted on 55" TV. Because of these end results, it has made this unit a vital part of my workflow.
Mspears,
Using the Capwiz is tailored for this unit allowing the user to have full control of all its features. Using this device for capture with an Ulead product can only be as good as the proprietary driver written for it.
As ADS users we both know the advantages of this hardware encoder. Devil(Brian) in this case may not. This unit can do TV output, manual color-correction on the fly and take edited DV from MSP's timeline and encode to MPEG in real-time via "loopback" method. Using all of the above has proven time and time again to produce a better encode than any software encoder. For testing purposes, I used the same DV source material and compared the final output from hardware encoder(loopback) versus MSP's MPEG encoder, Canopus Procoder 2 and TMPGEnc all with 2 passes. Hardware won everytime. Being able to make changes in color-correction like sharpness, contrast, etc... allows one to counter the usual loss in these areas during the encoding and compression process where software fails. Visual tests were conducted on 55" TV. Because of these end results, it has made this unit a vital part of my workflow.
Mspears,
Using the Capwiz is tailored for this unit allowing the user to have full control of all its features. Using this device for capture with an Ulead product can only be as good as the proprietary driver written for it.