Dv-Avi capture camera control-HELP

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi All
I need help

USING VS 8

I have a small annoying problem regarding camera control during capture.
I am capturing to DV-Avi via Firewire from a Canon Mv400 camcorder.
I have reported the fault to tech support who after 5 months tell me it must be my pc as nobody else has reported the condition.

‘Can I try another pc’ was there reply.

I do not have access to a second pc but with the help of the forum I have many.

This is what happens

1 / I set the preferences to ‘show messages when inserting first video clip to timeline’
2 / I set preferences to ‘auto insert transition effects’
3 / I capture split by scene.
4 / Change the project Properties to Mpeg.. Odd request but it will ensure the info box from (1) above will be activated.
5 / I capture to Dv-Avi

Capture is terminated by clicking the mouse ‘stop capture’ or the capture pre-set duration time is reached.

At this point the camera should pause and the clips load to the library and timeline, an info message is usually shown to change the project properties to match the captured video.

This is where it goes wrong:-

My camera continues running until I ok the info windows. The camera will continue to play to the end of the tape, unless I intervene.

When I do ok the info windows the captured clips are inserted to the library and timeline and the camera is switched to stop.
I would expect the camera to be switched to ‘pause’ leaving the preview window showing the next clip to be captured.

CAN YOU HELP

Test your capture process.
Does your camera stop immediately after capture or does it continue to play? if it does it shouldn’t.

If you do find this problem let me know,

talamail2004-forum@yahoo.co.uk

Then I would like you to report it to Angelo Gonzales Ulead Technical Support

http://www.ulead.co.uk/tech/techsupport.htm

I have no problems using video studio 7.
Video Studio 8 is the problem.

I am holiday for 2 weeks from Sunday, I will reply to the forum or e-mails, early March.


All the best and thanks Trevor.

[GeorgeW]

is device control turned on for your dv device?

[Trevor Andrew]

George

i do not know what you mean.

Vs 8 recognises my camera, and the camera name/type is displayed in the capture section. vs auto switches the camera on when capture is started and stops camera when capture is terminated.

Split by scene works ok, so timecode is recognised.

VS 7 works ok i only have problems with vs8

[rwindeyer]

Hi Trevor – you are spot on; I can confirm your problem.

The essence of the problem seems to be that the DV camera does not stop until the clips are loaded into the library. This has happened to me since I got VS8; I’ve been too lazy to do much about it, as it didn’t seem to affect much (I got what I wanted, and if the camera ran on a bit while the clips were being organised that hasn’t been an issue).

Your trick with the project properties etc starkly delineates the problem. I have not had the “show message” item checked, so it has just happened. However with that checked, the computer waits for input before it can load the clips into the library. And the camera will indeed run on forever if you let it.

It is not you or your computer. It is a glitch with VS8. I will be responding to tech support (for all the good it may do……..)

By the way, I think it happens whether or not you insert transitions.

Specs:
Acer TravelMate laptop, Centrino, Pentium-M 1.6 Gh, 512 RAM, 64 Mb ATI mobile Radeon 9000 video card, 60 Gb HDD, external 120 Gb HDD for video. Running Windows XP Pro with SP2.
Camera: Sony DCR-TRV11E. Firewire connection.

Best of luck!

[Trevor Andrew]

Thanks Ron

That’s just what I wanted to hear.
I realise its only a small problem but VS 7 works ok, VS 8 has taken a backward step.

I use VS mainly for holiday videos. Initially I use to capture the full tape only to have difficulties of one sort or another, I found capturing shorter footage was the better option.

So each days footage would be captured to a separate project.
My camera has a ‘date search’ option which I could use to mark/identify how long each days recording was and therefore how long to capture.
Setting the capture duration in video studio allowed me to do something else during capture, knowing that capture and camera would stop ready for the following days capture.
Unfortunately not so with VS 8

Another small glitch which I noticed whilst testing the above fault is that you lost 2.5 seconds of capture on the second and subsequent captures. Again not a big deal but if this was 2.5 sec audio sinc’ you would be worried.

Video Studio’s control of the time code during capture is not accurate enough. If this amount of control is being used for the rest of studios processes editing, rendering etc then I think we would be in real trouble.

Please if anybody else out there would like to test their capture that would be great.
Again tech support say this does not happen and it may be my pc, I know different.

Thanks for all your help

Trevor

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi All
I have been on holiday for a few weeks and have lost track of some of the postings.
I am still having problems with DV-Avi capture, and was hoping for more feedback from the forum,

If anybody can confirm the condition I will be able to forward to tech support.
Please read the posting above.

Thanks Trevor

[rwindeyer]

I got the same response you did - they can't reproduce it, it has been reported a total of two times - must be us!!

[Trevor Andrew]

Thanks Ron

More help is required, I do not believe that my system is at fault.

Any feedback will be of help.

All the Best Trevor

[J. Baker]

I have reported the fault to tech support who after 5 months tell me it must be my pc as nobody else has reported the condition.

That's what they say everytime, it's never there fault. go to http://www.videohelp.com and click on tools. There's better freeware and shareware apps then what "ULEAD us in circles" makes.

[kebrinton]

I actually like VideoStudio but am still learning so usually blame my problems on myself rather than on the program.

If I have this problem, I'll just capture using VS7 and edit using VS8 -- I've got both.

I will post, though, if it occurs.

Keith

[Trevor Andrew]

Thanks Keith

I also like using Video Studio.(very much)
I capture to Dv-Avi and Split by Scene.
I set a capture duration and let VS 8 get on with it.

Vs 7 works OK.
Vs 8 does not stop my camera until all clips have been inserted to the library and timeline.
I have just returned from holiday and wish to capture each day as a separate project.
Looks like I will have to use VS 7 for the time being. (or sit and watch the capture process)

I paid for an upgrade and expected it to be better than the older version.
If I have to revert to the older version to make things work, then I feel as though I have wasted my money.

It would be good if you could test if only to tell me that your system works.
I have yet to hear that some cameras stop without over-running.

Thanks to All Trevor

ps
J. Baker i will look at vcdhelp site, but how does your system capture?

[J. Baker]

ps
J. Baker i will look at vcdhelp site, but how does your system capture?

Capturing to DV works but is slow. Capturing directly to MPEG only gives me 10 minutes of capture and no more. Which sucks because the quality looks better when I capture directly from my DVCam to MPEG which I do in MovieFactory.

But if I want to edit before I convert to DVD I use WinDV to transfer my footage and then Virtualdub to edit the video. Both are freeware!

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi J Baker

When I asked 'but how does your system capture?' I assumed you were capturing digital via firewire to Dv-Avi.
With this method Video Studio should control the start play and pause of your camera during capture.
Does your version of VS8 stop your camera automatically immediately after capture, or does the camera continue to run until the captured clips are inserted into the timeline.

Does anybody else want to test there capture process?

See the first post for full details.

with thanks

Trevor

[maddrummer3301]

Don't know about this but under the "Preferences" (F6)
On one of the tabs says "Allow access to the capture device properties"
or something like that, very similar.

That may show more options to controlling the camera in the capture screen.
.

MD

[Trevor Andrew]

Don't know about this but under the "Preferences" (F6)
On one of the tabs says "Allow access to the capture device properties"
or something like that, very similar.

That may show more options to controlling the camera in the capture screen.
.

MD

This tab mearly changes the format of the Options in capture to a menu list which accesses individual windows rether than one window with mutiple tabs, as is the default setting.

You do not get any extra properties to set.

Its not my settings that are wrong. When i use VS7 all is OK only VS 8 gives me problems.

When capturing via firewire or i link the camera is controlled by VS. Started and Stopped automatically.

At the end of capture my camera continues to run until all captured clips are inserted into the timeline. This is wrong, the camera should stop straight away.

How does your system control your camera
Ulead do not believe this to be a fault, and asked me to try on another pc, the only options i have is to ask the forum for help.

I have had little response. (dissapointing)
Thanks to those who have.

In antisipation

I am considering downloading the trial version to see if there is a difference

Trevor