Strange question... audio stops at the end?

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Mon May 29, 2006 12:54 pm

I just burned a DVD and it turned out beautifuly... only one problem. In the last 3 minutes of the video, the audio cuts out completely. It was all one track, it was audio from the original project. There is audio in the original video file as well as on the preview on workshop. It's very odd. I'm hoping it was just some fluke thing and when I re-burn it the audio will be back? What I did was captured the video DV-AVI through movie maker. I then saved it as a WMV (because DV-AVI was giving me some audio problems) I found out soon that WS2 has issues with this format or at least this particular video, so I brought the WMV into video studio and saved it as DV-AVI type II. From here everything worked fine... except no audio, but ONLY the last few minutes of the video... it just cuts out completely. Hopefully this is enough information. Let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks in advance for the help.
Dann

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:10 pm

has this ever even happened to anyone else? I'm hoping it was just a fluke thing. I might just try to burn it again. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks
Dann

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:51 pm

stannmaple wrote: so I brought the WMV into video studio and saved it as DV-AVI type II. From here everything worked fine... except no audio,

but ONLY the last few minutes of the video... it just cuts out completely.

Hopefully this is enough information. Let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks in advance for the help.
Dann

Are you saying the dv-avi has no audio at all???

Or not???

Did you try my suggestion for overcoming the audio problem with MM?

Graham

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:13 pm

I did not try your suggestion. If I can't get it to work, that is what I will do next, but before you had replied to my last problem, I had already brought the WMV file into video studio and encoded it as AVI. Seems to work fine. It is ONLY the last few minutes of video that cut out. The whole AVI file has audio and suddenly it cuts out. Very strange and random.... do you know what it could be?
Dann

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:34 pm

stannmaple wrote:I did not try your suggestion. If I can't get it to work, that is what I will do next, but before you had replied to my last problem, I had already brought the WMV file into video studio and encoded it as AVI. Seems to work fine. It is ONLY the last few minutes of video that cut out. The whole AVI file has audio and suddenly it cuts out. Very strange and random.... do you know what it could be?
Dann

No idea what exactly it could be, maybe one too many conversions/reconversions? Is the audio cut, like something is missing, or is it just ending sooner than the video? Do you have areas in the video where you would notice an out of sync problem or is it just background noise?

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:56 pm

no... it's really wierd. The audio is all in sync. I've re-checked it and it plays fine in the original file and the file converted to AVI. There must have a been a problem when it converted to MPEG. I really don't understand why. The audio just cuts out totally. I burned the DVD again and had the same problem. I think I'm just going to try to encode it as an AVI type 1 rather than type 2 because if I'm not mistaken, the type 1 AVI includes the audio track instead of separating it from the video. This is what I understand from my limited knowledge. I'll let you know how it comes out. Thanks for the replies. Any other insight is welcome.
Dann

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:05 am

I would recommend DV type 1 in any case. I never used type 2 and believe it is there for the simple reason that some capture devices can only capture the audio as a separate stream.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:16 am

stannmaple wrote:..... What I did was captured the video DV-AVI through movie maker. I then saved it as a WMV (because DV-AVI was giving me some audio problems) .....

Could you elaborate on this point please. At the moment the clue is a fault in the original capture.

I had already brought the WMV file into video studio and encoded it as AVI.

Rather than converting to AVI with VideoStudio, try converting to DVD compliant MPEG2. It is going to end up as MPEG2 at the end of the day so converting to AVI is only creating an extra conversion step and another area where errors can emerge.

If you do this, check the MPEG2 file before proceeding to the authoring stage with DVD Workshop.

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:27 am

right. That's what I had thought originally. That was what I tried first (to save as MPEG-2 which made the most sense) Unfortunately for some reason, this gave me the same error as when I had saved it as WMV, so I ultimately decided on AVI, which worked. I've now re-tried it as AVI type 1. I will let you know how it comes out. Thanks again for the help.
Dann

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:43 pm

just to specify, when I say it WORKED, I mean, it burned to DVD, NOT that the sound worked... it still cut out 3 minutes before the end. I will try it again today with AVI type 1.
Dann

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:28 pm

Stanmaple
Rather than spending a lot of time possibly flogging a dead horse are you able to capture it again. I strongly suspect you have a faulty capture.

stannmaple · Post by **stannmaple** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:16 pm

It finally worked. I have no idea why, but when I converted to AVI type 1 instead of 2, that did the trick. So, I'm glad it wasn't a faulty capture or I would have had to redo the entire project. From now on, I'll be using video studio which looks like it has more features anyway. Like I said though, this was an old project (from movie maker) and I just wanted to get it on DVD. Thanks so much for all the help.
Dann

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:02 am

Steve,
Just for clarity on the audio problem in his dv-avi.

Movie maker has a known problem which when you use transitions you sometimes end up with an audio glitch when saving as a dv-avi.

The capture can be fine, it is just the resulting save as dv-avi. Saving as wmv doesn't have this problem.

It doesn't affect everyone, in fact I can't replicate it, but my fellow MS MVP and Movie Maker expert Papajohn can.

MS cannot find exactly what is causing it, but we have narrowed it down to it somehow removing frame 27 from an NTSC file. Strangley enough though some PAL people also suffer it.........

It causes an audio glitch which can be a pop etc.

Those that suffer it tend to make their dv-avi, and then make a wmv, start a new project, import dv-avi into the timeline, mute the audio, import the wmv to the audio track and save as a dv-avi, result dv-avi quality and proper sound.

A bit of a faff, but a work around

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:00 am

In that case the answer is simple. Use a different program to capture in the first place. Perhaps DVD Workshop itself depending upon your hardware.
If it does not support your hardware for any reason
1. View our links to free stuff:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=12931
There is one there named Win DV
2. Download the free trials of Uleads other programs
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skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:25 am

Steve,

An obvious answer is to use something else

It's not at the capture stage, just the save to dv-avi stage. Saving as wmv is fine on all PC's.
Probably all is OK with save to dv-avi on 90-95% of pc's, it's just an odd few that get this problem, and is most likely down to the hardware/software/codec configurations.

Graham

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