Capture properties forced by source? (vs8)

[mortal nuts]

I am capturing VHS video via Sony digital camcorder, using an A/V cable (RCA from the VCR). With nothing in the timeline, project properties are:

AVI
NTSC
24 bit 720x480
Lower Field First
DV-type 1
DV Audio - NTSC
44.1 khz, 16 bit stereo

Captured file properties are same as above EXCEPT the audio reverts back to 32 khz, 12 bit stereo. I wish to retain the 44.1 khz setting/16 bit.

In testing different project file formats, I noticed that any change I make to the project properties do not influence the information shown in the Information section on the Capture Tab. Capture source is Sony-MSDV, format is DV. I must be missing something. Any ideas?

Thanks!!!!!!

System:

AMD 2700+, 250gb HDDx2, 1 gb RAM

[Ron P.]

Hi,

What is the audio setting in your camcorder, 12 bit 32khz? If you can, go into the menu on your camcorder, and set the audio properties to 16 bit 44.1khz. This is not going to effect video already recorded, but for future recording it will be recorded with the 16 bit audio.

Ron P.

[Trevor Andrew]

From the capture tab select options – Video and audio capture properties settings- advanced-from here you can change the capture properties, you have an option ‘same as project property settings’. ( I found this option a bit hit and mis ) always check your settings.

If you are using DV then you need to connect via ‘firewire’ otherwise the format will revert to Avi. So are you using DV or Avi????

Trevor

[mortal nuts]

I had tried that in the beginning figuring initially it was the source, but the setting I ended up changing wasn't in an obvious location. Found the setting and works great - thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ken Berry]

But listen to what Trevor said -- you absolutely MUST use Firewire if you are capturing from a digital video camera and want to capture the best quality possible. With the A/V cables, you will capture uncompressed AVI (i.e. 65 GB -- yes GIGbytes -- per hour), or else relatively poorer quality mpeg. If your computer does not have a Firewire port, then you must buy one -- but they are cheap these days.

[mortal nuts]

I am using an A/V cable from the VCR to the camcorder, and a firewire connection from the camcorder to the PC.

[Ken Berry]

Sorry -- I hadn't properly read your first post, but now understand you were using the Sony as a passthrough device. As for the 12 bit vs 16 bit, while I am glad you appear to have found a solution, it could be that your camera is set to 12 bit and is passing this on to the digital signal being sent to the computer. You might check this by going in to the Sony's menu and changing it if in fact it is set (as it is by default) to 12 bit.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi mortal nuts

When capturing to DV You have no capture properties to set, with the exception of the Dv-Type, which should be Type 1.

The capture properties are derived from your camera, The capture process is similar to copying the data. What you have in the camera is what you get on your pc, There is no re-coding.

As Ken said, your audio settings are set in your cameras menu options. If you wish to change these then it is done via your camera.

Capturing to DV is the best method to use to get video from your camera to VS.

All the Best

Trevor

[Banji Abereoje]

Hi

With ref. to one of ur (mortal nuts) post "I am capturing VHS video via Sony digital camcorder, using an A/V cable (RCA from the VCR).... With nothing in the timeline, project properties are: AVI //NTSC //24 bit 720x480 //Lower Field First //DV-type 1 //DV Audio - NTSC //44.1 khz, 16 bit stereo

I'll be more than glad if u can help me out with step by step setting and connection u always use to achieving this capturing of VHS via Sony cam (a.k.a. PASS THROUGH)

I have posted quest in this line before but still can't get clue to my problem. I use Sony trv480. Connecting this to my VCR via RCA cable to capture VHS into my camcoder will always result in capturing only the audio AND NOTHING SHOWS ON THE LCD even while following the setting to be done on the cam. strictly, thus:
Menu>Edit/Play>(AV-DV out enabled),
Menu>Edit/Play>Display (LCD panel enabled)

Pls, what else could I do to get this feature of "pass through" I'll be forever grateful.

B.A

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Banji

You appear to be connecting your camera correctly but don’t mention that you are using Firewire from camera to pc.

Are you using ‘fire-wire’ connection?

If you have not done so, Remove the tape from the camera during pass-through.

Trevor

[Banji Abereoje]

Hi Trevor,

I do use Firewire to connect my camcoder to the PC. Of course, I've tried the options of removing the tape from inside the camcoder & also putting the tape. the two still give the same result: of only sound but no image on LCD.

Pls what else do I do?

Thanks
BA

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Banji

I am assuming that you can capture normally via fire-wire from your camera without using pass through. If so then the problem is with your cameras settings.

Just to check:-
Does your pc and VS recognise your camera? what shows in the ‘Source’ box.
I have a Panasonic and see ‘Panasonic-MSDV’ in the source box.

When you connect your camera, from capture, select DV as the ‘Format’
Does it remain as ‘DV’?

All the Best

Trevor

[Banji Abereoje]

Hi Banji

I am assuming that you can capture normally via fire-wire from your camera without using pass through. If so then the problem is with your cameras settings.

Just to check:-
Does your pc and VS recognise your camera? what shows in the ‘Source’ box.
I have a Panasonic and see ‘Panasonic-MSDV’ in the source box.

When you connect your camera, from capture, select DV as the ‘Format’
Does it remain as ‘DV’?

All the Best

Trevor

Hi,

The camcoder is fully recognised. I said earlier that the VCR is connected to the Camcoder thru the RCA cable supplied & the Camcoder is hooked to the PC via 1394 cable. The audio captured is crystal clear but the LCD does not show anything: just blank.

Thus, the VS preview screen is also blank during capture but audio does record. I even tried Win movie maker sometimes. The problem is not with the editing software at all.

PLS, I'LL APPRECIATE A CLUE TO THIS PROBLEM.

If it has to do with settings, I have tried all these: On the camcoder
P-Menu>Menu>Standard set>a/v-dv out (set to ‘ON’)
P-Menu>Display>LCD Panel (set to ‘ON’)
P-Menu>Menu>USB-PLY/EDT> USB Stream or STD-USB or Pictbridge (I do select USB stream)

Or i-link / IR setting in Prog Edit

Or does this have to do with TV colur sys or VCR setting: Auto/PAL/SECAM/N443? I have experimented all.

I still wonder what type of analog movie SONY refers?

Thanks.

BA

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Banji

Disconnect the VCR and connect your camera to the pc, use a tape in the camera.

Does video studio capture ok or do you have the same problem as pass through.?


Have a look at your Device Manager and update the driver for IEEE 1394.

Trevor

[Banji Abereoje]

Hi Banji

Disconnect the VCR and connect your camera to the pc, use a tape in the camera.

Does video studio capture ok or do you have the same problem as pass through.?


Have a look at your Device Manager and update the driver for IEEE 1394.

Trevor

Hi Trevor,

I didn't seem to understand your 1st paragraph, however, I can capture back to my TRV480 camcoder using VS8: share>playback .... after rendering a few clips to conform to the required format of DV playback. Infact, it shows excellently.

I don't think I have any problem wt the Camcoder to PC & vice versa but JUST THE ANALOG PASS THRU BTW THE CAM & THE VCR.

Pls, more light....

Thanks
BanjiA