WOKSOP 2.231 - DVD Protection

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paulinho

WOKSOP 2.231 - DVD Protection

Post by paulinho »

Hello everybody!
I have one doubts referring of how to record a DVD with protection MACROVISION.
I have a DVD-RW LG 12x double side. I already know that with this DVD player is not possible to record a DVD with protection.
I would like to know which the DRIVE of DVD that I should buy, to record my DVD with protection of MACROVISION.
The option of the software WOKSOP 2.231 that I am selecting is:

- Burn Project to Disc
- Advanced Settings
- Macrovision(R) copy protection
- Type1

Thanks

Paul
david reece

Post by david reece »

piece of advice here.

ulead misrepresented or underestimated what was required to do macrovision protection.

1) you need to purchase a licence from macrovision if anyone comes back to you i have had no luck!. it is cheap apparently and comes in instalements of 100 discs
2) it wont stop someone coping your disc. it will however stop it being copied to tape.
3) you need a DLT to use copyright protection or a glass master as Jerry mentioned here.

Now none of this is at all clear and Jerry said if you are buying this product you are doing so as a professional so would know what is required to do this.

This doesnt stick in the UK I am afraid. Trade Descriptions Act states it must be clear to the purchaser what the product does it must not be wishy washy! however ulead seem to have got around this! base the shopping mall in Germany sell on line and no one is the wiser!
thecoalman

Post by thecoalman »

Just my opinion...Save your self the money.... there's not a DVD disc on the market that cannot be copied. I can list mutiple links to FREE programs available for doing it.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... rld/119549
Take the program ICopyDVDs2 Standard from Me Too Software, sold at major computer retailers like Best Buy, CompUSA, and Target. When you attempt to copy a copy-protected DVD, ICopyDVDs2 warns that doing so is illegal and offers a detailed explanation of how non-U.S. customers can use the search engine Google to find and download a program that enables them to use ICopyDVDs2 to copy any CSS-protected DVD
The same can be said for any protection including MV transmitted across RCA or S-video to a VHS player. It's just a matter of where's there's a will there's away. Short of putting the disc in a microwave there's no way to protect it.
david reece

Post by david reece »

what are you on about coalman
thecoalman

Post by thecoalman »

david reece wrote:what are you on about coalman
:?: Don't exactly know what you mean.
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Post by DVDDoug »

From the DVD Workshop Manual:
Macrovision® copy protection Select to use Macrovision's DVD copy protection then select the type of protection in the list. This prevents others from duplicating your disc.

Use of analog copy protection for DVD applications is subject to the proprietary intellectual property rights of Macrovision Corporation of Santa Clara, California, U.S.A., and users require a usage agreement with Macrovision Corporation before analog protection system activation bits are set to on.
ulead misrepresented or underestimated what was required to do macrovision protection.
David,
It is really not fair to accuse Ulead of misleading you when you can download a trial version and a user's manual before purchasing. I've discovered some unpleasant things about a couple of Ulead products after purchasing too... the bugs defects & deficiencies are their fault, but I was not cheated.
david reece

Post by david reece »

To Coalman.

The perosn here asked how to activate the Macrovision signal in DVD WS 2. You have niot answered teh question but merely stated how to get rid if the signal?!?! How is that an answer to the Postees question?!?!

To DV Doug.

If you buy a product in the UK it must state on teh outside packet what teh product does. So if it states you can have Macrovision on your discs it must state you need a Digitial Linear Tape Drive to do it. From the flyer and the literature it mentions no such thing so actually falls foul of trades description.

If upon openng the packet you then discvoer in teh manaul that you need this extra item to activate macrovision again this falls foul of th trades desciption act. Bascially as soon as you open the box you cant return the prodcut for software purchases.

Also the email what Ulead sent me made it clear you could macrovision your discs. it didnt mention you need a DLT drive to do it! This is deception and in this country that is called being diddled! Bascailly we were lulled into thuinking we could macrovison our own DVD +/-R discs which wasnt the case!

if you look at the Ulead website it isnt clear either here is their actual words!
Copy Protection
Add copyright protection to your DVD titles with Macrovision and CSS options
Plus! a BIG PLUS it doesnt tell you how to get hold of teh licenses to macrivision your authored disc. I have tried to contact Macrovison as per H T Chiens method to no luck. Again you have to pay for a 100 disc license from Macrovision.
thecoalman

Post by thecoalman »

david reece wrote:To Coalman.

The perosn here asked how to activate the Macrovision signal in DVD WS 2. You have niot answered teh question but merely stated how to get rid if the signal?!?! How is that an answer to the Postees question?!?!
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I never said how to get rid of teh signal but merely stated it's very easily broken and quoted an article about it since it's specifically related to the topic at hand which is DVD Protection. Since you did such a fine job of answering his specific questions is there a reason I cannot elaborate on the topic and offere my own advice such as how you elaborated on it with:
david reece wrote:it will however stop it being copied to tape.
Which FYI is incorrect.
david reece

Post by david reece »

[quote]there's not a DVD disc on the market that cannot be copied. I can list mutiple links to FREE programs available for doing it.

what have i misunderstood about that!

The crux of the question is the postee was mislead into believing as many of us had from Ulead that we could master discs with macrovision on them. What it did not do was fully explain the process out of the box!

Now had they put * and at the bottom of the page "*you need a DLT to activate this" then we all could have decided that yes DVD WS2 will be fine without this at least we know! But Ulead kept on bombarding me with emails re this fantasitic feature i bought it! that in my book is deceit!

At the end of the day if someone wants to protect their work what is wrong with that! If someone is going to steal it they will. but remember copyright theft is a crime whether the main studios do it or an individual makes an individual work on a DVD.
thecoalman

Post by thecoalman »

david reece wrote:
there's not a DVD disc on the market that cannot be copied. I can list mutiple links to FREE programs available for doing it.
what have i misunderstood about that!
You have niot answered teh question but merely stated how to get rid if the signal?!
All i said is it can be done not how to do it, that information can easily be obtained simply by typing it into a search engine. It's not as if anyone is hiding it anywhere.
The crux of the question is the postee was mislead into believing as many of us had from Ulead that we could master discs with macrovision on them. What it did not do was fully explain the process out of the box!

Now had they put * and at the bottom of the page "*you need a DLT to activate this" then we all could have decided that yes DVD WS2 will be fine without this at least we know! But Ulead kept on bombarding me with emails re this fantasitic feature i bought it! that in my book is deceit!
Whether not you were mislead isn't really up for me to decide and I haven't commented on it have I. It appears to be misleading to me though. I personally read all the fine print, if you feel you were mislead I suggest you file a complaint, don't know about where you live but the lawyers here love class action lawsuits they feel they can win.
At the end of the day if someone wants to protect their work what is wrong with that! If someone is going to steal it they will. but remember copyright theft is a crime whether the main studios do it or an individual makes an individual work on a DVD.
Again I was merely pointing out the fact that trying to protect it is useless, it can't be done using MV or CSS. If it can be seen it can be copied, not even the big studios can protect there material so why should you as a individual waste your money doing it, if you want to that's your perogative. The law where you are at may vary but unprotected material has just as much protection under the law here as something that has been protected using methods such as Macrovision or CSS. I don't know the fine print but as soon as you produce any original material it is copyrighted, you do not have to register it. You only have to make the end user clearly aware that it is copyrighted such as putting a copyright mark on it. Personally for people in the U.S who have created anything that feel is signifcant I would suggest registering it because that supplies a firm date of production that can't be disputed. I suggest you find out how these laws apply to you in your own country.
WHO CAN CLAIM COPYRIGHT
Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright.
U.S. Copyright.... http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html

The laws again vary but under the "fair Use" act you are able to make copies of your software. It becomes vague as there hasn't been a trialyet how this pertains to media but one thing is clear in the U.S. it is illegal to copy a DVD using CSS encryption even for your own personal use. It becomes illegal becaus of the fact that your breaking the encryption which makes even having the software itself illegal.

As far as MV on VHS the devices themselves are not illegal. They have legitimate purposes for video. MV is afterall just a video error artificially inserted into the video stream. Oddly this is in fact having the reverse affect on the konowledge of these devices and there use. Computer hardwre has to detect the MV it doesn't work the same way as VHS to VHS. A lot of hardware has issues determining what is MV or what is just a regular video error. Therefore many of the people trying to copy there old home movies that contain a lot of errors are finding they can't due to false MV detection, they do a little research and soon find out how to copy not only there own tapes but commercial ones as well.... Serves them right as far as I'm concerned.
david reece

Post by david reece »

perhaps you yanks could give ulead a run for their money!
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