MSP 7.0 Sound out of sync when creating MPG file

[Jeff Reid]

I have created a movie of a cabaret act. It is very important to sync the sound to the singer. The movie is 50 minutes long, but split into thirds as seperate dvp's.

There are two video tracks and one audio. The video tracks have basic fade transistions every 30 to 40 seconds, nothing too taxing on the system.
There are NO title effects.

In the editing view all appears OK and sync'd. After completion and after creating a MPG file, the sound is about 1/2 second off of the singer. Really annoying.
Any solutions? I broke it up into the three segments thinking it was too large a file, but that doesn't seem to do it.

I have a P4, 2600 Ghtz, HT, 800Mhz FSB, 1G RAM, 2 drives 7200RPM SATA. For all intensive purposes, it should have no issue handling the data flow.

[ejskater16]

yeah, i'm running into the same problem, i'm only about 10 minutes into my video project, running it all on one .dvp, but it's loaded with filters/moving paths/ video - audio overlay tracks/ titles , the whole deal. my goal is to finish it as an MPEG, but it's not looking too good.

i had this same problem a few years ago with the free crap sony gave me with the camera... i'd just have to create a video file every so often, and slap that in there.


maybe it's something wrong with putting it out to mpeg? are all your files that are in the project already in mpeg format?


can anyone help us!?

[Jeff Reid]

Yeah, it was edited with MPEG files. Actually, no conversion is even needed except for the transistions. Titles I did as a seperate project, to later splice in when creating the DVD. (I had problems with title sequences throwing the computer way off on an old AVID Express program I used years ago). Everthing is off by about 1/2 second. I even tried to compensate by making the audio track 1/2 a second ahead in the edit, so the final output would be on target. What happended then was everthing was off in the other direction. Arggg.

It is really annoying and Ulead has not even responded with any help at all. I can't help but think you get what you pay for and I should either get Premiere Pro or scrap it all for an Apple and Final Cut.
Or perhaps I should scrap my dreams of being an editor and get a degree in Finance!

[thecoalman]

Edit with AVI, MPEG wasn't meant to be edited. Can be but wasn't meant to be. This is especially true if your doing extensive editing.

[Jeff Reid]

So then, I should transfer files in via AVI, edit, then when completed finish in MPEG for DVD output? Or should I leave it as AVI and have MovieFactory2 convert the AVI?

[thecoalman]

So then, I should transfer files in via AVI, edit, then when completed finish in MPEG for DVD output?

Yes I'm assuming your captured them in AVI, I don't mean to convert your mpeg to AVI. With a 50 minute movie when you go to create video use 720x480(for NTSC, use Pal equvalent if in Pal land)8000CBR and AC3 audio. Import into MF, make sure to use the feature where it let's you not renecode the video. All your edits should be completed in MSP. The only thing you should have to do in MF is create your menus and chapters.

I'm suggesting 8000, that is generally overkill but since your only trying to get 50 minute on the disc it won't make a difference. Usually I use about 6000 VBR, make sure to check the "two pass encoding" box.

Note: I don't have MF so I'm not sure how it handles AC3 but that's what you want to use if at all possible.

[GeorgeW]

How are you actaully capturing (what hardware and what type of connections)?

This might apply to your situation:

From the Ulead MSP FAQ List:
<<<
Q: When I use MPEG-2 files which have been captured by some hardware encode devices as my source video files, after editing, the rendered video is out of sync. How do I resolve this problem?

A: Please try to add the following setting in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro\7.0\msp.ini?then restart VideoEditor to render the project again. This may fix this problem.
[VIODRIVER]
CloseAudioDTR=1
>>>


Also, if that's MF2 LE that comes bundled with MSP 7.0, then it should have AC3 audio encoding.

[Jeff Reid]

Thanks for the tips! I got it to work. Here's the deal for others with similar problems.

1 camera was analog and the video was imported as Mpeg2...
the other camera was digital and was directly imported as AVI. (OK, so I started off on a bad foot).

Edits were back and forth between the two with MSP7.

the audio was from the avi track.

I DID need to convert the mpeg to AVI, but I did so after all the edits in the CREATE process. (It probably could have been better to do this before, but I didn't want to re-edit the whole thing)

So, when I was finished, saved as a DVP and then CREATEd a VIDEO file. I created an AVI, not a MPEG.

Later I then took my AVI (a whopping 90 Gig), and transferred it to DVD. The DVD authoring program compressed and converted it to DVD compliant Mpeg, but keep in mind, this was done AFTER a continuous AVI was made, a much simpler task for any computer.

I did NOT use MovieFactory2, but instead used Roxio DVD Builder. But I never did have issues at this stage anyways, it was always in the editor stage, so I am fairly certain that MF2 would also do the trick. I used Roxio instead on a whim, as I find it easier to use for post-production trimming of clips, and I had that need still since I left too much leader footage at the start.

Thanks all!

[thecoalman]

I DID need to convert the mpeg to AVI, but I did so after all the edits in the CREATE process. (It probably could have been better to do this before, but I didn't want to re-edit the whole thing)

When your encoding MPEG back to AVI using a really low compression shouldn't have too much affect on the quality. try using the MS RLE comression or the Huffy codec. It will create huge files though. You are right though converting to AVI before your edits is the correct way to do it.